Myths of US Foreign Policy

[Roland]

"how they stood against the Ottomans so Europe wouldn't fall"

[nationalist mode]
They got overrun. We stopped the Turks. And you all should be thaaaaaankful. Without us you'd all be speaking turkish now. Where's that gratitude ? Bring it on!
[/nationalist mode]

[rah]

A lot of Safire's writing in the past that I have read were pure hilarious satire. No reason to believe he wasn't attempting the same thing here.

RAH

[SlowwHand]

Originally posted by Apocalypse
Saddam Hussein should never have become our enemy. We handled the prewar Iraq/Kuwait relations all wrong. We really should have just paid Iraq's war debts.

Is it drink or drugs, or a wild combination, that make you write this?
Yeah. Let's just pay everybody's bills some more.

[MarkG]

Ronald, you stopped the Turks? Huh! 2000 years before that we stopped the Persians!!!
Now where's your gratitude?!?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by MarkG
Huh! 2000 years before that we stopped the Persians!!!
Now where's your gratitude?!?

That was the Spartans, not the Macedonians.

[Roland]

"Ronald, you stopped the Turks? Huh! 2000 years before that we stopped the Persians!!!"

I didn't know the Slavic tribes stopped the Persians. When and how ?

[Carver]

Saddam Hussein has been jerking around the United Nations for seven years.

Reality: The United Nations (read US & UK) has been jerking around Iraq for a decade. Economic sactions, no-fly zones, sporadic bombing.

If U3 (US/UK/UN) wants to force its inspectors into Iraq and dismantle Hussein's "weapons of mass destruction" they should go into Israel and force the Israelis to dismantle their weapons. And they should have gone into apartheid South Africa and forced them to do the same thing. But no, nukes in the hands of racist oppressors are fine but Saddam - he might threaten the price of oil, OMG.

[Saint Marcus]

2/10

bad troll

In the past decade, the U.S. saved Europe from becoming an economic vassal to Iraq, which was on its way to conquering Kuwait and Saudi Arabia.

For some reason, the authors seemed to have "forgotten" that Europe gets most of it's oil from within Europe, or the former USSR.

Recently, we drove Islamist terrorists, who threaten Europe as much as America, from their training bases in Afghanistan.

Europe, besides Britain, isn't a prime target for Al Qaida. Most European countries aren't even secondary targets.


very poor troll. but then again, I expected no better from the New York Times

[Saint Marcus]

America has broken free of the decade-long romance with a terrorist and is now trying a radical new idea of encouraging Palestinians to set up the first democratic Arab state.

The first democratic arab state? As I recall, north african nations are considered arab as well, and some are democracies.

[SlowwHand]

Iraq will probaly go Democracy, once Saddass and his brood are smoked.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Saint Marcus
The first democratic arab state?

In the Middle East.

[MarkG]

Dino, Roland,

see my new sig. it'll help you

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Saint Marcus
In the past decade, the U.S. saved Europe from becoming an economic vassal to Iraq, which was on its way to conquering Kuwait and Saudi Arabia.

For some reason, the authors seemed to have "forgotten" that Europe gets most of it's oil from within Europe, or the former USSR.

According to the stats I've seen, approximatly 40% of the EU's oil imports comes from the Middle East. Around 39% of thier imports come from European and Russian sources. Where do you get your stats from?

[Roland]

That doesn't answer the question.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by MarkG
see my new sig. it'll help you

It's not my fault that you are leaching off the past glories of your Spartan betters.