The Mirror denounces the US as the rogue state

[faded glory]

Originally posted by Saint Marcus



"at least 3,767 civilians were killed by US bombs between October 7 and December 10...an average of 62 innocent deaths a day", according to a study carried out at the University of New Hampshire in the US.

The 3676 deads aren't figures made up by your "enemies", but are found in a study by an American University.

Interesting, I wonder how they know this from the other side of the room. And because its american? Thats supposed to be taken as absolute truth now? I dont get it. I guess they made a few calls to kabul.....oh wait, Kabul doesnt have telephone service. I suppose they took the existing claims, which are coming down every month as they confirm how much bull**** they were.

3000+ plus civilians didnt die

Give it a rest you trolls.

Even Al-Jazeera reported 4 here, 10 there.....yes there were a few. But at no time did they themselves claim thousands had been killed.

Funny, where are these bodies? Where are the people of Kabul saying 500 people were bombed in a mosque at the north of the city on November 17th? Why doesnt this make sense? Wait, is it possible the Taliban lied! No, of course not?


Juvenile Crackwhores indeed.

[Sava]

faded, you're great!

[faded glory]

"But why is it that when a wedding is bombed, with 40+ people die, a whole hububb is made, but when in Sudan whole towns are wiped out nobody even knows? Russians in Gronzy? No, Gronzy is 96% gone. "

10,000 civilians killed. This has been confirmed. The whole city turned into Stalingrad, the Russians warned the population to leave. Most did, but some couldnt or refused. then they encircled it and made a large rolling barrage to prevent what happened in 1996. The City, is no more today and I doubt it will be rebuilt anytime soon. 300,000 refugee's from Grozny, 60,000 from Gudermes. Not a peep from Europe or the UN. Typical. This is why the ICC is a waste of time.

[faded glory]

Btw New Hampshire is along way from Afghanistan Marky Mark. They compiled existing crap data from the opening days of the war. Meaning, the stuff only the taliban gave to us.

[Sava]

ooooh...
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faded you're on fire

[Saint Marcus]

Not a peep from Europe or the UN.

where have you been these past few years? Europe has continuesly objected to Russian behavious in Chechnya. Sadly, due to the American war on terror, Russia can now safely claim it is doing the same, and Bush supports Putin in that.

And Sava, stop being Faded's asspuppet.

[faded glory]

"where have you been these past few years? Europe has continuesly objected to Russian behavious in Chechnya. Sadly, due to the American war on terror, Russia can now safely claim it is doing the same, and Bush supports Putin in that"

Sadly? No this just means we are both right and Europe has got its head in the ass when it comes to the "Rules of war". Other than a few comments for human rights, Washington knew the Russians were very much justified in there response to teracts, So is Israel and so are we.

[Saint Marcus]

Have you any idea what Russia did in Chechnya? Any idea at all? And you call it justified? You're one sick bastard

[Ming]

Originally posted by Saint Marcus
Have you any idea what Russia did in Chechnya? Any idea at all? And you call it justified? You're one sick bastard

Enough of this crap... If you want to troll and sprout your anti american stuff... fine, your opinion and you are welcome to it...

BUT ENOUGH WITH THE PERSONAL INSULTS... and that is directed at EVERYBODY.

[Felch]

Originally posted by Jon Miller


USA USA USA USA USA

Jon Miller

Amen, Jon, Paiktis is just jealous that Greece can't kill 62 Turks a day. And the rest of the Europeans and self-hating Americans are just jumping on the bandwagon.

They hate us and rate us, because they ain't us.

Of course it's not great that the US is killing innocent people. We know this. But we also know that we're doing something very difficult and very confusing. It's hard to avoid civilian casualties when your sources for information are manipulating you into killing off their enemies.

When Europe was preeminent it ran into the same problems. But because of communications difficulties, few people ever heard of the atrocities committed by the European empires. America is suffering in public relations because the increased communications media, many of which we spearheaded and developed, are being used to show the world the mistakes that we make.

It's like this. There's a job to do. Murderous criminals who attacked the United States have to be hunted down and either killed or captured and then killed. If Europe doesn't like this, they don't have to be involved. If they don't want to be invovled, they can opt out of NATO whenever they wish. But unless the European community has a better solution than what the United States has put forward so far you're just going to have to accept that mistakes will be made.

And Saint Marcus, if Europe is so powerful (I seem to recall you bragging about the sizes of the potential EU armed forces versus the US), why doesn't it intervene to prevent the crimes Russia is perpetrating? Because Europeans are all talk and no action. You all would rather post your complaints on Apolyton or wander the streets with angry signs, than grab a gun and make an actual contribution to fighting evil in the world. The United States tries to be the guardian of liberty and enlightenment values. If you think we are failing in this, why don't you try to take over?

[Chris 62]

Originally posted by paiktis22
at least 3,767 civilians were killed by US bombs between October 7 and December 10...an average of 62 innocent deaths a day

this is an independent study contacted by your people.

quite damning.

It sure is!

For all the money we pay in taxes for those munitions, we sure aern't getting enough bang for our buck.

I'm sure we can increase that kill total to at least 70 per if you would just get behind us.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Chris 62
I'm sure we can increase that kill total to at least 70 per if you would just get behind us.

Wouldn't you rather that they be in front of us?

[KrazyHorse]

With Greeks, they get you coming and going...

[Chris 62]

I thought you were laying off gay jokes.

[KrazyHorse]

I'm just getting started...