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I am just trying to preserve history.
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The "under God" part of the pledge was added in 1954. The Pledge didn't have "under God" longer than it did. So how does preserving "under God" in the Pledge preserve history?"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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That was the history of 1954.
Or... regardless of Eisonhowers intentions or motives the phrase that was inserted would have been constitutional anyway. The fact of history is that the nation was supposed to be "under God". So what's the big deal?Comment
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wrong Lincoln.. this country is freedom of religion and freedom FROM religion...To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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the truth hurts, don't it?Attached FilesTo us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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"the truth hurts, don't it?"
Well, yes, it can be painful at times. How are you feeling?Comment
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I like how your signature is from a guy who got killed by Christianity...To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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Originally posted by Pythagoras
Cant the adding of the word God to any government endorsed creed/pledge or whatever be interpreted as a law respecting the establishment of a religion?"[W]hen all is said and done, the danger that 'under God' in our Pledge of Allegiance will tend to bring about a theocracy or suppress somebody's beliefs is so minuscule as to be de minimis. The danger that phrase presents to our First Amendment freedoms is picayune at most"
Hopefully this will get more play in this thread.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Sorry to dissapoint you but Galileo was not "killed by Christianity" but he was in fact a Christian.Originally posted by Sava
I like how your signature is from a guy who got killed by Christianity...Comment
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Oops, I was thinking of every other scientist throughout the "dark ages". Galileo was just convicted of heresey and sentenced to live in isolation until his death in 1642... but great news... in 1979, the pope anulled his conviction!!
EDIT: OH WOW, In 1992, the pope lifted the ban on Copernicun theory... way to go guys...(Copernicun theory circa 1616)To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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I've got to go to bed. I'll see you later.Comment
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G'night... may God have mercy on your soul.To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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If that were true, how could the Founding Fathers have so carelessly omitted that phrase from the Constitution? Why not, "We the People, Under God..."?Originally posted by Lincoln
The fact of history is that the nation was supposed to be "under God". So what's the big deal?
Because...that's hogwash. The Founding Fathers, be they men of religion or not, wanted a secular society and specifically created one in the Constitution. They specifically made the national motto "E pluribus unum," not "In God We Trust." You've got some bizarre notions of facts of history.
We're secular, so get over it!
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I love you Boris!
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So tell me sir! What does it feel like to destroy a straw man?
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You know the way the pledge is said now if "under god" is removed a new phrase will have to be added in its place to preserve the rhythm of the piece.
I was just thinking, perhaps we could put "without equal" in its place. OTOH the phrase "above the law" has a certain appeal to it also.
Any other suggestions on the topc of phrases to fill in the gap left by the removal of the phrase "under god" from the pledge of alliegance?"I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!Comment
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I'd say "with tolerance" but apparantly believing in God is more important than respecting other's beliefs.To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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