US school of assassins - US as safe heaven for dictators and torturers

[Bereta_Eder]

said the supporter of the turkish regime

some countryman...

[Sava]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Sava, the Democrats are just as culpable for the American Holocaust as the Republicans.

Yes, but the right-wing is worse... note I didn't specify Republicans...

[DinoDoc]

For Freedom!

Oh, say can you see, by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore, dimly seen through the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, now conceals, now discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected now shines on the stream:
'Tis the star-spangled banner! O long may it wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wiped out their foul footstep's pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heaven-rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner forever shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

[Bereta_Eder]

oh please spare me of your rampant nationalism monneypenny

sounds like Nazi Germany to me

[Sava]

I'd like to think that it glorifies freedom, not just a nation, paiktis. You aren't against freedom are you?

[Bereta_Eder]

where's the freedom of the peoples whose democracis you have overthrown?

or whose terrorist squads you have trained?

ever wondered about that? now that some say that the effects of this are starting to come back to you?

[Ramo]

Yep, the SoA is one nasty organization we've had.

[Shi Huangdi]

Originally posted by paiktis22
oh please spare me of your rampant nationalism monneypenny

sounds like Nazi Germany to me

Unlike you, Dino and I belong to a nation it is worth being proud of.

[Bereta_Eder]

I'm sure you and dino are proud of sponsoring dictatorships, terrorism and misery across the globe.

After all you love the turkish military regime.


As for Greece, live 5000 years, create everything, then we'll talk

[Zoid]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi


Unlike you, Dino and I belong to a nation it is worth being proud of.

Most nations have something to be proud of. Above statements (and previous ones by Sava) is why everyone else thinks americans are stuck up pompous *******s

[Saint Marcus]

Unlike you, Dino and I belong to a nation it is worth being proud of.

Indeed. The only nation to ever use nuclear weapons, Vietnam, Watergate, Enron/WorldCom/Xerox, McVeigh, highest teenage pregnancy rate in the western world, highest STD rate in the western world, one of the highest drug use rates in the western world, highest homicide rate in the western world, Bush winning the election with less votes than his adversary, etc.

[Jac de Molay]

Nobody likes a whiner. Why dont you offer constructive suggestions about solving these problems instead of hiding behind your computer and hurling negativity at us Americans.

You seem quite content to just sit back and criticize. How about outlining your utopian vision for us dumb, unenlightened Americans??

dave

[Zoid]

Duh! The answer is socialism. How about paying attention next time?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Kamrat X
Duh! The answer is socialism. How about paying attention next time?

That's not what you said before!

[Sava]

SM your trolling is starting to border on absolute lunacy. The US does not have the highest STD rate in the world, not even close. Have you forgotten about that little continent called Africa? And China, Russia, and Eastern Europe all have higher rates of STD's than the US.

As for nuclear weapons... should we have not used them and let casualty totals for invading Japan run up to well over 3 -4 million military and civilians combined? It's funny. People bash the US for using nukes, but since 1945, the death rate as percentage of population took a steep decline.

And if you want to get personal... how about the anti-semitism in Europe? THe US never set up death camps... the US was the first free nation on Earth since the ancient Republics, which BTW, sparked a chain reaction that led to the fall of the monarchies in Europe.

Face it SM, without the US, this world would be a worse place to live. Detroit Dave is right. Instead of trolling, how about you help us solve some of our problems. Either you are unwilling to be productive and intellegent, or unable.