Evil Christians kill animals while enlightened Atheist kills babies

[Stefu]

And I could just as easily post the opinions of any number of Christian nutcases.

Yes, because everyone knows that you just can't point out stupid opinions of anyone without attaching the standard "I-know-there-are-nutcases-in-my-movement-too" moniker, since everything without that moniker is always signifier of complete approval of those nutcases in own movement.

In any case, there's something not quite right with these two statements:

He defined speciesism as the belief that being a member of a certain species "makes you superior to any other being that is not a member of that species."

Animals are not the same as humans. They can't reflect on what they are doing and think about the alternatives. Humans can.

I tend to believe that my ability, and ability of other humans, to reflect on what we am doing and think about the alternatives does make us superior to animals which can't reflect on what they are doing and think about the alternatives. He's such a well-reasoned and well-thought-out man, that Peter Singer.

[Adam Smith]

Originally posted by Sava
I just think its funny that most Pro-Lifers claim to be on the moral side of the issue in supporting an infant's right to life, but yet once they are born, the same Pro-Lifers object to any form of welfare, public aid, public health care, and are for privatization of public schools. ....
You want to be Pro-Life? Fine... but then support programs that will help improve the quality of life for people.

I wonder about the morality of killing straw men such as this one

[moomin]

Peter Singer has provided me with countless hours of entertainment. I used to disguise myself as a lefty and tour anarchist bars, striking down on unsuspecting chicks munching burgers with the whole absurd Singer diatribe.

Most of them were impressed enough to dish meat and saw fit to reward me for improving their lives by enlightning them about animal solidarity and progressiveness. In solid flesh currency, no less.

To this day I don't know if they were stupid because they were leftist, or leftist because they were stupid... but who cares anyway?

[orange]

once a baby is born it's basic right to life should be guaranteed...deformities and illnesses don't have any bearing on it, IMO...

[Sandman]

I'm a speciesist and proud of it.

We only keep the great apes around for their entertainment value.

[November Adam]

I wonder if he thinks its okay to kill deformed animal infants?

I get the impression he would be appalled.

[SnowFire]

"entering property, trespassing in order to obtain evidence."

Even if this evidence was admitted (private citizens aren't held to quite the same standards as police) at some kind of trial ("Court is now in session. Defendent is charged with hunting animals with a permit."), wouldn't a jury be, oh, I don't know, slightly suspicious of evidence brought in and sworn to by avowed law-breakers who want to get rid of all but the most neccessary of killings? I'd be very suspicious that this "evidence" would be untampered with by them, myself.

Anyway, agree with the people noting that the sentience argument might make chimps & whales safe, but then most of the rest of animals would be up on the chopping block. Probably the best reason for vegetarianism, in my mind at least, would be for people who do in fact believe that animals have a soul or the equivalent... I'm thinking of early Jainism here, although I'm sure some Christian groups agree with this too.

[November Adam]

I would think the best argument for vegetarianism would be that you don't like meat.

[Sixchan]

That's fine and dandy, but when you have a stomach problem that makes the digestion of vegetables very difficult, like me, you may not be so inclined towards vegetarianism.

[Ned]

This explains Singer:

Singer defended his previous writings that humans and nonhumans can have "mutually satisfying" sexual relationships as long as they are consensual. When asked by CNSNews.com how an animal can consent to sexual contact with a human, he replied, "Your dog can show you when he or she wants to go for a walk and equally for nonviolent sexual contact, your dog or whatever else it is can show you whether he or she wants to engage in a certain kind of contact."

[Sixchan]

I think I'm going to be sick...

[Jaakko]

Anti-atheist trolling? I thought you better than that, Lincoln.

[Stefu]

Yeah. Everyone knows Peter Singer pieces are best suited for anti-abortion trolling, or perhaps anti-animal rights trolling.

[Jaakko]

Eh? What's that got to do with anything Stefu?

[Az]

troll , or no troll , this singer guy is an ******* of the first degree , and given the chance , I would definetly kick his ass , in the most outrageous, sadistic, and immoral way I could. I'd force him to eat a baby lamb alive in one piece , and then I'll sexually abuse him with a dried up genitalia of an elephant. I'd make him eat the **** of thousands of baboons, and then , to contrast it , make him choke on some industrial waste. I'll force him to tie his balls to a prehistoric giant bird, and then shoot a pistol up in the air , so he would fly up , tied by his nuts.

I'd poke his eye off, and then pull it out , dragging the optical nerve as I go. then, I'd melt a plastic phone calling card , and place the melted plastic all over his optical nerve, while simultaneously orally raping him with a hot poker , that would come right out of his *******.

thank you.