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  • #76
    Yes, but once the person who is given the gun carries it into Chicago a crime has been committed and the person who gave him the gun did so with the intent of having that person commit said crime. I would wait until he gave a couple such guns away, then arrest him on some sort of conspiracy charges.
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    • #77
      Full circle. Who would arrest him? Chicago police have no jurisdiction in the suburbs. It's not a crime in Oak Park (Ridge?). Nor it is a crime under State law, as far as I can tell.
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      • #78
        Who would arrest him? Chicago police have no jurisdiction in the suburbs. It's not a crime in Oak Park (Ridge?). Nor it is a crime under State law, as far as I can tell.
        -Fine... then just sue, or wait until he tries to come into the city.
        "The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
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        • #79
          Uh, you realize that it is relatively routine to work with other police departments to bring in a suspect, right?

          After all, he is an accomplice to a crime in Chicago. The suburban police can't legally refuse to bring him over for a fair trial.

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          • #80
            CygnusZ, I suspect you a right about crimes that are violations of state law. There, the act is criminal throughout the entire state. I suspect you incorrect about this matter, though, because it would not be a violation of any law in Oak Park.

            In an analogous case, Franch recently prosecuted Yahoo for selling Nazi memorabilia on its Internet service in the United States. French citizens could access the US cite and see and even buy the memorabilia (read, guns).

            The remedy, however, would be to fine or shut down Yahoo in the US. But I guarantee you, the US would not co-operate in any such French adventure because what Yahoo did was legal in the US where the act was committed.
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            • #81
              So you don't think the laws concerning being an accomplice to a crime were created on a state level?

              If it is true that laws concerning involvement in criminal acts were legislated on the state level than I am right.

              If it is true that laws concerning involvement in criminal acts were legislated on the city level than you would be right.

              Remember, I'm not talking about busting him for selling the gun, which I will fully admit is legal. I'm concerned with the conspiracy to break the law. I suspect that _is_ legislated on the state level. I almost can't imagine that it's NOT.

              So, we're looking a law, state or federal, that states something to the effect if a person helps someone else to commit a crime it is illegal.

              I want to make it very clear i don't think his crime is selling the gun. Once again, I don't think he's guilty of gun sales. Third time, guns sales which are legal where he lives would not get him in trouble with the law. It is strictly due to the fact that he is an accomplice in the crime I feel he holds liability. Did I mention that I don't think his crime is selling firearms?

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