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Originally posted by rah
If we want to see Satan in Chicago, we need not look any farther than City Hall
RAH
If we want to see Satan in Chicago, we need not look any farther than City Hall
RAH
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Or just look at all the owners of the Chicago Sports Franchises...
Keep on Civin'
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I think that Satan would want to own a team that was actually good.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Daley is a corrupt ass. He's not a bad mayor, but he's very corrupt and shuts down opposition like nothing you've ever seen.
"Vote early, Vote Often, Vote Daley"- DaleyComment
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Nahhhhh... Satan would rather watch Chicago Sports Fans SUFFER...Originally posted by DinoDoc
I think that Satan would want to own a team that was actually good.Keep on Civin'
RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron OComment
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-Given the infinite quality of the teams in Chicago, I don't think he would actually need to bring that about himselfNahhhhh... Satan would rather watch Chicago Sports Fans SUFFER...
"The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
-Joan RobinsonComment
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No, it isn't. In almost every state, the elements of conspiracy only require an agreement between two or more people to accomplish an unlawful purpose. Here the unlawful purpose is to carry a concealed weapon in Chicago. The crime is committed by a member of the conspiracy when they perform an act in furtherance of the unlawful purpose (the act itself does not have to be illegal). And it is not a required element that every member of the conspiracy actually commit or plan to commit the illegal act. It's enough that one will and the others act to help that person accomplish the illegal goal.Originally posted by rah
The fact that they have to be Chicago residents is immaterial.
It seems that so far, though, this guy is just blowing smoke. But once he hands the gun over to the Chicago resident, a conspiracy charge would probably stick.
Politically though, it would make more sense to wait until the guy actually commits the crime and bust the supplier as an accomplice. It's cleaner that way.
Che: Solicitation (or inciting) may not work in this case as many states have restricted common law solicitation to serious felonies. I'm not sure where Illinois stands on this.What's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?Comment
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He already has started handing them out, Echinda. A Hasidic Jew was the first recipient.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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Not the owner
Satan doesn't own the teams, he just makes the player/personnel decisions.
Jerry Krause is Satan“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
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Oh. Well, that is that then. The article said that the Hasidic Jew was the first planned recipient but indicated it was still "planned". My guess is that this guy wants to get charged so he can bring a constitutional challenge to the law. As a non-Chicagoan I'm not sure if he would have standing to bring the challenge otherwise.What's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?Comment
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I'm sure this guy wants to be arrested so he can play the martyr."The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
-Joan RobinsonComment
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Based on this definition, any gun dealer that sells a gun to any Chicago resident would be guilty of conspiracy. I don't think they would want to open that can of worms.Originally posted by Echinda
No, it isn't. In almost every state, the elements of conspiracy only require an agreement between two or more people to accomplish an unlawful purpose. Here the unlawful purpose is to carry a concealed weapon in Chicago. The crime is committed by a member of the conspiracy when they perform an act in furtherance of the unlawful purpose (the act itself does not have to be illegal). And it is not a required element that every member of the conspiracy actually commit or plan to commit the illegal act. It's enough that one will and the others act to help that person accomplish the illegal goal.
RAHIt's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
RIP Tony Bogey & Baron OComment
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Yes, but some gun dealers are not intentionally trying to provide the people of Chicago with a gun. This guy sounds like he is explicitly trying to get someone to commit a felony."The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
-Joan RobinsonComment
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Authorities should take this in consideration the next time a protest turns violent.Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Come on Rah, you know inciting others to committ a crime isn't legal anywhere in the US.
Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul TighComment
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The line is so thin. Any suburban dealer that sees a Chicago address on the registration knows that law is going to be broken. Is there really any difference?Originally posted by Victor Galis
Yes, but some gun dealers are not intentionally trying to provide the people of Chicago with a gun. This guy sounds like he is explicitly trying to get someone to commit a felony.
These same gun dealers do advertise in Chicago publication, which could be seen as the same thing.
RAHIt's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
RIP Tony Bogey & Baron OComment
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Yeah, but this guy is just being so blatant about it. The others might make a case that they didn't know or something like this, but this is a guy saying, "Come on, I'll help you commit a felony!""The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
-Joan RobinsonComment
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