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  • U.S. will withdraw from U.N. peacekeeping unless troops are exempted from world court

    June 19
    — By Evelyn Leopold

    UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - To the dismay of its allies, the United States on Wednesday threatened to withdraw from U.N. peacekeeping missions if its troops were not exempted from the reach of a new global criminal court.

    As part of a U.S. onslaught against the court, the Bush administration introduced a draft U.N. Security Council resolution that would exclude all missions, military and civilian, fielded by the United Nations or even endorsed by the world body, such as the NATO-led troops in Kosovo or Bosnia.

    "We will not put American men and women under the reach of the International Criminal Court while serving in a United Nations peacekeeping operation," said U.S. representative Richard Williamson.

    A U.S. official said if American personnel were not protected there would "no longer be U.S. peacekeepers."

    No one in the 15-member council agreed with the American stance on the court, the world's first permanent tribunal to try the most heinous crimes -- genocide, war crimes and systematic, gross human rights abuses.

    Supporters of the court consider it the most important development in international law since the Nazi war crimes tribunal in Nuremberg after World War II.

    Several members said they would see if "there was a way out" of the dispute, such as expanding the network of bilateral agreements. Russia, which has signed the treaty, questioned what authority the council had over statutes for a court separate from the United Nations, diplomats said.

    "I don't know if there is a way," said Norwegian Ambassador Ole Peter Kolby. Others wondered if the U.S. stand was final.

    The treaty establishing the court has been ratified by 67 nations, including all 15 European Union members and Canada.

    In the council, Britain, France, Ireland, Norway, Bulgaria and Mauritius have ratified it. All other members, except for China and Singapore, have signed it and several said they would ratify it soon.

    The court is not retroactive. No crime committed before July 1 can be prosecuted by the tribunal when it begins functioning in The Hague, Netherlands, sometime next year.

    SYSTEMATIC CRIMES

    Prosecutions are only valid if national courts are unable or unwilling to bring perpetrators to justice. Only a state ratifying the treaty can make a complaint against its citizens or those of other nations for crimes committed on its soil.

    But Williamson was clear he would not be swayed.

    "Other members of the Security Council will not change our position," he said. "Obviously the whole spectrum of U.N. peacekeeping operations will have to be reviewed if we are unsuccessful at getting the protection we demand be in place."

    The Bush administration and many members of the U.S. Congress oppose the court as a threat to national sovereignty. They also fear U.S. officials and soldiers could be subject to political prosecutions, which Europeans say is unlikely.

    The new U.S. draft resolution stipulates the responsibility to investigate any crimes as the duty of "member states contributing personnel participating in operations established or authorized the U.N. Security Council."

    U.N. peacekeeping missions usually have such immunity in bilateral agreements but Washington wants to make it air tight. The document says soldiers or civilians would have immunity from prosecution when they go to other countries for cases arising out of a U.N.-backed operation.

    The United States has only about 700 personnel in U.N. missions -- police, civilians and a handful of military observers, but no combat troops. It does have 5,200 troops in Kosovo and 2,500 soldiers in Bosnia outside the U.N. command, which it wants exempted.

    The Security Council this week intends to renew the U.N. mission in Bosnia, which has ratified the court's treaty. A separate amendment was submitted by Washington to exclude the U.N. personnel as well as NATO-led peacekeepers there.

    "We've made it clear we need to have the ICC issue addressed before we support a resolution," Williamson said.

    The treaty on the court was signed by former President Bill Clinton and then renounced by President Bush. Its statutes come into force on July 1.

    Calling the U.S. stance an "ideological jihad," Richard Dicker of Human Rights Watch said the "text is an effort to hold U.S. participation in peacekeeping missions hostage to unwarranted U.S. fears. It puts the United States on the wrong side of the most important human rights institution created in the past 50 years."


    Copyright 2002 Reuters News Service. All rights reserved.

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    Jeez, what are we doing? Holding the rest of the world hostage? Engaging in international blackmail? And then we are fighting a War on Terrorism? Hell, these tactics seem like ones terrorists would use: blackmail and ransom payments!

    BOOOOOOOOO!

    You know, I'm seriously reconsidering my Republican Party Membership.
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    • #3
      Waits for David Floyd
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      • #4
        "You know, I'm seriously reconsidering my Republican Party Membership."

        I was wondering why you stuck around as long as you did. But what party would you join?

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        • #5
          This is wonderful news - but we should withdraw from UN Peacekeeping regardless.
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          • #6
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
              You know, I'm seriously reconsidering my Republican Party Membership.
              Really? I might join if he keeps this up.
              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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              • #8
                But what party would you join?


                Libertarian Party... or stay Independant. The Libs are far out for me, but I wouldn't hesitate to vote them in.
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • #9
                  I can see concerns about politicization and ideological misuse of the court, but flat out demands for exemption are completely over the top. Especially, as Imran notes, when we need foreign allies, or at least foreign cooperation, and anti-terrorism and other policy issues.

                  Bush needs to make up his damn mind, if he hasn't lost what passes for one in his case - is the US going to swagger through the world like the lone sheriff (or with Bush's consistency, like Doc ****in' Holliday on an excess of laudanum), or is the US going to be a leader among allies?

                  Can't do it both ways.
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                  • #10
                    The US is withdrawing from the International Community. We're becoming isolationists again.

                    No, worse, we're becoming ultra nationalists. We are creating policies for the sole benefit of our country and we are not helping the rest of the world.

                    This is the complete wrong direction to be going in order to achieve worldwide peace and prosperity.
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                    • #11
                      Sounds good to me.

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                      • #12
                        Especially, as Imran notes, when we need foreign allies, or at least foreign cooperation, and anti-terrorism and other policy issues.


                        You just like that I said I was considering leaving the Republican Party .

                        I totally agree though. We can't walk the thin line and piss off both sides. We have to make a decision. And to think Republicans blamed Clinton for being wishy-washy!
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
                          Bush needs to make up his damn mind, if he hasn't lost what passes for one in his case - is the US going to swagger through the world like the lone sheriff (or with Bush's consistency, like Doc ****in' Holliday on an excess of laudanum), or is the US going to be a leader among allies?
                          The US is going to be Judge Holden from Glanton's Gang in Blood Meridian. 'If war is not holy, man is nothing but antic clay.'

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                          • #14
                            the world court is a bad idea. look no further than the people on this baord seriously suggesting going after people like kissinger. It's going to be a silly court that restricts actions by the good guys and does nothing to the bad guys. How will it enforce its mandates. Uncle Sugar, baby.

                            If the Euro nations are so hot and heavy to police the world, why aren't they picking up the slack. Why are they selling anthrax and nuclear reactors to Saddam? They're all talk and little action.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                              Especially, as Imran notes, when we need foreign allies, or at least foreign cooperation, and anti-terrorism and other policy issues.


                              You just like that I said I was considering leaving the Republican Party .
                              Hell, I guarantee you I'm voting Republican in this year's California gubernatorial race - anybody but Davis.

                              And no matter what opportunities they're given, the Dems can't get away from that harebrained hyperliberal rhetoric, so they're not going anywhere. Only thing worse than blatant pandering corporate whores are a group of blatant pandering corporate whores who tell you they're doing it all for your benefit.
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