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Jon's not 100% accurate. Lords can only delay a Bill for one year. It was two, but that power was trimmed in 1968 (IIRC). Opinion is divided as to whether it's a good or bad thing - they've blocked some things that I see as good (the foxhunting bill, the Section 28 repealing) and some things I see as bad (the hasty anti-terrorist bill). So I don't know where I stand, except that they're even more parasitical and undemocratic than the Commons.
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Proving me wrong?! You're expelled!Originally posted by Clear Skies
Jon's not 100% accurate. Lords can only delay a Bill for one year. It was two, but that power was trimmed in 1968 (IIRC). Opinion is divided as to whether it's a good or bad thing - they've blocked some things that I see as good (the foxhunting bill, the Section 28 repealing) and some things I see as bad (the hasty anti-terrorist bill). So I don't know where I stand, except that they're even more parasitical and undemocratic than the Commons.
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Sixchan, it seems that many British residents were unhappy primarily because of the crime situation. If this is correct, then the conclusion that the so-called right is in trouble in Great Britain is probably incorrect. It is the right, after all, that is most concerned for law and order.Originally posted by Sixchan
Humph.
I've been burgled twice, and I moved here because my old neighbour hood, where I wasn't burgled, had too much crime. No-where is safe, and we need a much tougher line on criminals.http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=enComment
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Originally posted by red_jon
Proving me wrong?! You're expelled!
to you. Just cos I listen in Politics classes
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You are quite right, the Tories have Labour and the Lib Dems right where they want them. Another success for Ned.Originally posted by Ned
Sixchan, it seems that many British residents were unhappy primarily because of the crime situation. If this is correct, then the conclusion that the so-called right is in trouble in Great Britain is probably incorrect. It is the right, after all, that is most concerned for law and order.Comment
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Right where they want them...riiiight....so walking all over the Tories is what they want...Originally posted by JohnIII
You are quite right, the Tories have Labour and the Lib Dems right where they want them.
If the Tories have the other two parties 'right where they want them' then how come they made a net gain of only 1 seat at the last election and their poll results have been going down ever since?"Love the earth and sun and animals, despise riches, give alms to every one that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others, hate tyrants, argue not concerning God, have patience and indulgence toward the people, take off your hat to nothing known or unknown . . . reexamine all you have been told at school or church or in any book, dismiss whatever insults your own soul, and your very flesh shall be a great poem and have the richest fluency" - Walt WhitmanComment
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Ned? Just out of curiosity, do you come even remotely close to having something to back that up? Did you actually give it any thought before posting?Originally posted by Ned
Sixchan, it seems that many British residents were unhappy primarily because of the crime situation. If this is correct, then the conclusion that the so-called right is in trouble in Great Britain is probably incorrect. It is the right, after all, that is most concerned for law and order.
Clear Skies. Would you like a clearer signpost for JohnIII's sarcasm?The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil FinlandComment
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Can I just say that I wish fellow members of my nation would stop moaning just because England isnt the best place in the world to live. Why cant us British just be happy that we live in a free country, as opposed to living in a worser part of the world, and believe me they do exist!Comment
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Why would he choose now to start?Originally posted by Ron Jeremy
Ned? Just out of curiosity, do you come even remotely close to having something to back that up? Did you actually give it any thought before posting?12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
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Crime doubled under Thatcher, or so Labour keeps saying.It is the right, after all, that is most concerned for law and order.Comment
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He threatened to make new peers to outnumber the old ones. He didn't actually do anything directly in getting the bill through the Lords.Originally posted by red_jon
For 2 years. It originally came into effect when the King helped it through (the Lords would have blocked it in a wonderful catch 22).One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.Comment
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Ack. Leave me aloneOriginally posted by Ron Jeremy
Clear Skies. Would you like a clearer signpost for JohnIII's sarcasm? I'm stupid at the best of times, but when I'm tired I get doubly so...isn't there some sort of PC defence for people with single-figure IQs? I could sure use one...
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I remember that bit...Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin
He threatened to make new peers to outnumber the old ones. He didn't actually do anything directly in getting the bill through the Lords.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
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Sounds oddly familiar to when a Liberal government tried to push through a budget and the Tory Lords blocked it... Asquith (IIRC) went to the King and got him to threaten swamping of the Lords with Liberal peers if they didn't let it through.Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin
He threatened to make new peers to outnumber the old ones. He didn't actually do anything directly in getting the bill through the Lords.
Bless you Mr Murphy, I have learnt from thee
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