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Stefu, it seems you're talking about ethics, not physics
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Oh, great. Now you made it look like a religious argument, and the whole knee-jerk atheist crowd can dismiss it out of hand.It looks like Stefu is worried about the fate of the soul when the transportation process begins."Spirit merges with matter to sanctify the universe. Matter transcends to return to spirit. The interchangeability of matter and spirit means the starlit magic of the outermost life of our universe becomes the soul-light magic of the innermost life of our self." - Dennis Kucinich, candidate for the U. S. presidency
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Difference for who?Originally posted by Caesar the Great
then again does it make a difference?
For the observer, or for the guy that got killed in this thingie?"Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.Comment
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well ultimately your consciousness ends and you have no memories anyway, so does it make any difference whatsoever wether its "you" or an exact replica of you that walks around for those extra 20 or 30 years....I'm 49% Apathetic, 23% Indifferent, 46% Redundant, 26% Repetative and 45% Mathetically Deficient.Comment
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Even if you're a hard core materialist, there is a open question of how matter organizes in order to create that illusion of sapiency most of us seem to experience every now and then... I'd be wary of disruption at the material service level, no matter how short - think of it as rebooting your computer. No matter how much alike your next session is going to be it wont be quite the same.
And stefu's point holds. Just because your replica can't tell the difference deoesn't mean you're not dead."The number of political murders was a little under one million (800,000 - 900,000)." - chegitz guevara on the history of the USSR.
"I think the real figures probably are about a million or less." - David Irving on the number of Holocaust victims.Comment
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"then again does it make a difference?"
Doesn't make a difference to me if you slobs wink out of existence or are recreated.
From a personal perspective, I think I'll pass though.
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A simple technical problem:
Someone has thought about the energies that there would be involved in the conversion of 90 kg of mass(what weighs a person) in energy?:
E=mc^2 = 90Kg x (300000000 m/s) ^2 =
=8.1 X 10^18 Joules
equivalent to move 810000000000000 tonsIch bin der Zorn Gottes. Wer sonst ist mit mir?Comment
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It is a religious arguement and the knee jerk atheist crowd has rejected it out of hand, ex. Ecthelion.Originally posted by Stefu
Oh, great. Now you made it look like a religious argument, and the whole knee-jerk atheist crowd can dismiss it out of hand.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Of course it does! You people are crazy.Originally posted by Caesar the Great
so does it make any difference whatsoever wether its "you" or an exact replica of you that walks around for those extra 20 or 30 years...."Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.Comment
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??? but you're not actually moving anything, just information about the organization of atoms...Originally posted by thorgalaeg
A simple technical problem:
Someone has thought about the energies that there would be involved in the conversion of 90 kg of mass(what weighs a person) in energy?:
E=mc^2 = 90Kg x (300000000 m/s) ^2 =
=8.1 X 10^18 Joules
equivalent to move 810000000000000 tonsI'm 49% Apathetic, 23% Indifferent, 46% Redundant, 26% Repetative and 45% Mathetically Deficient.Comment
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i don't see how it does?Originally posted by Eli
Of course it does! You people are crazy.I'm 49% Apathetic, 23% Indifferent, 46% Redundant, 26% Repetative and 45% Mathetically Deficient.Comment
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It is only an example, i am speaking about the energy involved in the process??? but you're not actually moving anything, just information about the organization of atoms...Ich bin der Zorn Gottes. Wer sonst ist mit mir?Comment
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well yeah of course it would be some obscene ammount of information... then again gigabytes were unheardof some 30 years agoI'm 49% Apathetic, 23% Indifferent, 46% Redundant, 26% Repetative and 45% Mathetically Deficient.Comment
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information is irrelevant, the teleportation gets done without any energy calculation necessary.
on the contrary, any attempt to measure things would mess up the poor quantums. think heisenberg.Comment
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