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    (The following article has been quoted from the URL http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercuryne...on/3350446.htm)

    Keeping teens ignorant (and pregnant)
    By Richard Cohen

    BEFORE I tell you what Rep. Lois Capps, D-Calif., did, I want to tell you something about her. She is the daughter of a Lutheran minister. She has a degree in religion, and her late husband graduated from divinity school. She was head nurse at Yale-New Haven Hospital and director of the Santa Barbara school system's teenage pregnancy and parenting program. Last month, she offered an amendment to the government's sexual abstinence program, asking only that it be medically and scientifically accurate. She lost, 31-19.
    Soon after, the measure providing more money for President Bush's cherished abstinence-only program sailed out of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, heading to the floor where it will surely pass. The provision to keep America's teenagers as ignorant as possible about sex -- even, as Capps knows, to teach them what is false -- is embedded in a whale of a bill that contains so much for so many that, should it fail, it could only mean that our cherished political system has collapsed and reason has triumphed.

    The abstinence-only provision is a measure so illogical that just to contemplate it raises the sound fear that you will lose your mind. It offers the states $50 million a year to teach abstinence as the only way to deal with sex. That's it. Nothing about sex education. Nothing about how to avoid pregnancy, venereal disease or HIV-AIDS. Condoms may be mentioned, but only their failure rates. The fact that they most often are effective must not be mentioned. In effect, teachers must lie.

    Now consider the American teenager. More than half aged 15-19 have had sex. For 18-year-olds, the figure is 70 percent. More than 750,000 teenagers a year become pregnant. Compared with teenagers in, say, sexually rambunctious Sweden or France, those in America are a sorry lot. They have the highest rate of adolescent childbearing (22 percent for the United States; 4 percent for Sweden) and the highest abortion rate. The figures speak for themselves: When it comes to sex, our kids don't know what they are doing.

    The same can be said for our political leaders. It's not, mind you, that there is anything wrong with abstinence, which is, as our tautology-addicted president tells us, 100 percent effective. Rather, it's that abstinence only works when it works. When it doesn't -- when the well-intentioned kid falls off the wagon -- he or she ought to know what to do. The consequences can be lethal -- HIV-AIDS, for instance.

    The abstinence-only program did not, as you may think, spring from the brow of George W. Bush. It has been around since 1996, when some legislators with dirty minds slipped it into the welfare reform bill. But both in concept and as legislation it has been embraced by Bush, who mentions it frequently and with enthusiasm. ``It works every time,'' he said recently. So does death.

    In a sense, abstinence-only is the intellectual heart of Bushism. It is based solely on faith, on conviction -- on what ought to be and not on what is. The program persists despite no evidence that it works and in the face of some evidence that it does not. It is a muddled aspiration, coupled with such sanctimonious nonsense about chastity until marriage (average marriage age: 27 for men, 26 for women) that it simply cannot be taken seriously.

    But even if abstinence was the way to go, what could be wrong with teaching sex education as well -- just in case? Where else, in what other area, do we insist on ignorance and maintain that knowledge is wrong? This is not our way. This is a totalitarian concept. It amounts, truly, to abuse of power.

    The power and authority of the teacher rests on his or her greater knowledge. What do you call it, then, when information that could be necessary for a full and happy life is withheld? What do you call it when through avoidable ignorance and its handmaiden, shame, a teenager gets pregnant, has an abortion or has a child? What can you call it when, for lack of knowledge, a child gets AIDS and dies? Is this what George Bush wants? I hope not. But this is what he is going to get.

    The United States is far and away the most religiously observant of all Western nations. Yet it has teenage pregnancy rates that also lead the Western world. Our kids are not immoral or irreligious. They are too often woefully ignorant -- ashamed of their sexuality, hiding it and its consequences from everyone, not even knowing that a condom can save their lives. Lois Capps -- mother and nurse -- asked, in essence, only for the government to tell kids the truth.

    It abstained.
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  • #2
    Sex is natural, sex is fun...

    I swear as a good American that my kids will know what sex is and how to protect themselves and be safe. I don't need some idiot teacher in some backwater school district to do it for me.

    Oh, and when I have kids, and their sexual organs mature, I'm locking them in the closet...

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    • #3
      Teenagers in America know full well that sex without protection can cause a pregnancy or enable a disease to be transferred. Does this guy really think that teenagers do not know that?

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      • #4
        Teenagers should be taught proper methods of contraception and the social consequences of sex (including between same sex partners) so they can fully make a fully informed choice.

        The only-abstinance thing is really stupid, it is but one of many options.

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        • #5
          (including between same sex partners)
          recruiting , heh ?
          urgh.NSFW

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Dalgetti


            requiting , heh ?



            Many people are homophobic through ignorance and being gay in school can be especially difficult. If this ignorance is destroyed, people can be more tolerant.

            How does Bush expect gay people to ever have sex? It's not like marraige is an option.

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            • #7
              how does bush expect people to have sex at all? Is he planning to put the national geographic as X-rated ?

              Lincoln is right , teens know that sex exist by sibling stories . but That's a broken phone . Often kids know things that are lies, and told by elder brothers that make fun of their small siblings, or just kids coming up with stuff. It would really be good if teens knew what sex is. For example , in Sex Ed here , were were told about the private parts, the immense risks of unprotected sex, how to put on condoms, and the importance of relationships. ( Thus undermining the boys' one-night-stand tactique )
              urgh.NSFW

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              • #8
                How does Bush expect gay people to ever have sex?
                I don't think that Bush thinks about gay people having sex on a daily basis.

                Well, at least *male* gay people.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Lincoln
                  Teenagers in America know full well that sex without protection can cause a pregnancy or enable a disease to be transferred. Does this guy really think that teenagers do not know that?
                  I'm not arguing one way or another on this matter, but heres a little food for thought.

                  20% of the patients at the county STD clinic that I collaborate with are between 16-18. Whether they know about safe-sex practices or not, they dont tend to use them.
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                  • #10
                    And whats worse is that many of the teenagers once they get an STD don't take any precaution after they've contracted it. Which only serves to spread it around more.

                    There was a situation like that with one of my daughters friends. He had gotten infected by someone who knew she was contagious but just didn't care. She figured if she had it so should everyone else. Not to say that this is indicative of all teenagers but alot do take this attitude.
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                    • #11
                      McMaster university in Hamilton just release a report on this. They studied several different reports from N.America. They concluded all of the education approches to sex education have failed. Not one method worked what so ever. I know people get tired of me saying this but one area of teen pregnacy that is down is when there is a natural father in the house and or an equal participant in the children's lives. Studies show accross the map fatherless families are 70% more likely to have children involved in early pregnacy. It is possible that in fact a change in the equal parenting situation can improve this situation.
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                      • #12
                        well if your catholic abstinnence is the only way to prevent pregnancy

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                        • #13
                          H Tower, you treat Catholics like they have set beliefs on issues.

                          I used three methods of protect and that didn't do any good.
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                          • #14
                            i thought other forms of preventing pregnancy were not liked by the church.

                            so what is the catholic churches stance on contraceptions?

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                            • #15
                              There is no official stance. They are generally considered wrong. Another widely accepted theory is that as long as you practice faith, hope, and love sex is fine.
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