"I Didn't Want To Get Conscripted"

[Boris Godunov]

I have to agree with DF on issues relating to the draft. If the cause isn't great enough for us to have willing volunteers, it's a war we shouldn't be fighting.

[ZoboZeWarrior]

Hey Bob, do you like Mr LePen ? I'm ready to send him to your country if you like...

[Solly]

What? The only difference between Turks and Kurds is language.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
I have to agree with DF on issues relating to the draft. If the cause isn't great enough for us to have willing volunteers, it's a war we shouldn't be fighting.

Smaller countries in close proximity to threats do not have any margin for error, like the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans.

It reminds me of a somewhat famous quote. Somthing like, if you want peace, prepare for war.

[red_jon]

Originally posted by Boddington's
What? The only difference between Turks and Kurds is language.

Yeah, just like the German Nazis and the German Jews

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Boddington's
What? The only difference between Turks and Kurds is language.

You've been a real gas lately, sweetie. It's amazing how little of the education being served to you is actually finding its way between your ears...

[MikeH]

I can't wait to use "The only difference between the English, French and Germans etc is language" in his next EU troll.

[MikeH]

Oh and a new point...

If he hadn't come to the UK Boddington's wouldn't be able to buy his favourite kebabs!

[Provost Harrison]

Well this is it, and why I am strongly in favour of a multicultural society. Look at the new things new people bring to the country, in terms on insight and culture. I think this country has become a better place, for the better. I'd hate to see Stew and his 'Le Pen-esque' ideology get control and make this place well and truly bland. Sometimes I am sure the 'ethnic' side of this nation is the only thing that makes it remotely worth bothering with.

And Stew, I was talking to your big brother earlier on today. Be afraid, be very afraid

[MikeH]

Well I'm sure he'd have been against some of your family entering the country in the past if it was based on his current criteria, some friend!

Then again he probably just doesn't think about how what he says might affect real people.

[Provost Harrison]

He likes to do this for the shock value anyway, I think he is fed up of being 'boring' and wants to be more shocking. He fools no one. I'd rather be 'dull' than be held in contempt. Besides, if he actually exhibited his personality properly, he isn't dull...just psychotic

[MikeH]

I hope so, I'd rather he was just annoying rather than really as predjudiced as he pretends. It's quite sickening really.

[David James]

Come on and just answer/debate the freaking question...

Is conscription or the apprehension thereof a legitimate grounds for emmigrating and seeking refuge abroad? Should the same be a reason for a host country to grant refuge?

[KrazyHorse]

It depends on the circumstances.

I wouldn't support allowing people from Sweden to claim refugee status based on the fact that they had to spend a year birdwatching at a military base. I would support the refugee status of the guy Boddies described.

[Pekka]

Yes we have a mandatory military service, and i'm god damn proud of it. Of course if you don't want to kill, you can choose a service without a gun, or even civilian service (i don't know what it's called) where you seek a job and contribute to society in that way. If not, then jail you go.

My opinion is if you have mandatory service in your country, you have to do it. I personally don't care if you do it with your gun or not, just get your ass in the grass like the rest of us do. If in war, then i can't find any excuse that would be good to leave the country. Thank you goodbye, don't bother coming back.
On the other hand, if a person is totally against it ideologically and couldn't do it in any circumtances but contributes to the country in other way, then i will respect his/hers choice (like helping the eldery etc). But this applies just some countries in the world.

I wouldn't say it's illegal to seek refuge abroad but very wrong in moral ways if home is being invaded by enemy.
I guess what i saying is that if you don't want to defend your home, then you don't deserve it. If you can't die for any reason or cause in the world, then you don't deserve to live.