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  • Ashcroft: U.S. foiled 'dirty' bomb attack

    This is all CNN has on the story at the moment:

    U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft announced today that the U.S. has captured a "known terrorist" with connections to al Qaeda who was plotting to build and detonate a radioactive "dirty" bomb in the United States. The man, a U.S. citizen who was captured last month as he flew into Chicago's O'Hare Airport from Pakistan, has been turned over to the Defense Department as an "enemy combatant."


    1) Is it even legal to turn over a US citizen captured on US soil over to the military?

    2) If the charges are in fact true, what would the implications have been had he actually manged to carry out the plot?
    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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  • #2
    1) I don't think so. Posse Comitatus Act forbids the use of the military as a police.

    2) It could have made a lot of people quite sick, but the debris from a dirty bomb ought to be fairly easy to clean up.

    I wonder how he was to get his hands on the radioactives.
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    • #3
      Re: Ashcroft: U.S. foiled 'dirty' bomb attack

      Originally posted by DinoDoc
      This is all CNN has on the story at the moment:
      Apparently, this guy was betrayed by one of Al-Qaidas leaders Abu Zabaydah.
      Good job by the FBI preventing this attack!
      "I will not give you a cup of water if you were drowning in the desert!"

      Just my favourite CIV-quote. :)

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      • #4
        Originally posted by chegitz guevara
        I wonder how he was to get his hands on the radioactives.
        They might have been planning on stealing nuclear waste from a power plant.
        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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        • #5
          I wonder if Ming knows anymore about this as the guys was caught in his neck of the woods.
          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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          • #6
            This would be the "perfect" case for a treason trial, if ever there was one...
            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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            • #7
              I believe this one meets the constitutional definition of "treason".
              No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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              • #8
                Lots of material has gone missing from Soviet sources.

                The implications of such an attack could be far worse than che's

                "It could have made a lot of people quite sick, but the debris from a dirty bomb ought to be fairly easy to clean up."

                it depends on what the material is, how much is used, the weather, and where its detonated.
                We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
                If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
                Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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                • #9
                  Re question #2, I would be interested in knowing as well. Not exactly located in the safest place for this...

                  I was just talking with somebody this weekend about this and I said that this was probably the biggest "fear" that the administration has. A radiological weapon.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #10
                    I left out that a speedy response (within hours) to such an attack will reduce casualties by reducing any exposure. Unfortunately, I doubt that the possibility of such a rapid response exists within every metropolitan area.
                    We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
                    If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
                    Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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                    • #11
                      It's all just a secret government plot to keep the people afraid and thus justify the war on terrorism and the introduction of laws that restrict personal freedom and privacy.
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                      • #12
                        Mercator: How do you figure?
                        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                        • #13
                          Mercator is just on an anti-US rant today.
                          What's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?

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                          • #14
                            Of course he is. Just nipping it in the bud.
                            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                            • #15
                              The location Washington would have really disrupted the US though. The degree of disruption would depend on how long it would be before normal work routines could resume. Anyone have any idea?
                              http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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