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    This from a local college booklet:

    Statement of Nondiscrimination

    NYC Technical College is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action institution. The College does not discriminate on the basis of age, sex, sexual orientation, alienage or citizenship, religion, race, color, national or ethnic origi..............

    .........The "protected classes" are defined as Black, Hispanic (including Puerto Rican), Asian/Pacific Islander, American Indian/Alaskan Native, Italian American and women. The University will continue to exercise affirmative action for all of the protected classes.
    This is an obvious contradiction.

    Why dont they just be honest about it and make it quick and short? -

    Statement of Discrimination

    We dont discriminate against anyone except White Males.
    I was also interested to note that "Italian Americans" are one of the "protected classes". Do Italian Americans suffer racial discrimination?
    ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
    ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

  • #2
    Except that, Affirmative Action does not necessitate discrimination against white males, so your argument is pointless.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Boris Godunov
      Except that, Affirmative Action does not necessitate discrimination against white males, so your argument is pointless.
      If everyone except white males are considered the "protected classes", then isnt that discrimination against white males?
      ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
      ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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      • #4
        Many of these PC universities ought to have the slogan "the university is our world." They display their ignorance for all to see and think that we are supposed to be impressed by their education. Someone called them "educated fools", and I think he hit the nail on the head.

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        • #5
          I believe that basic affirmative action is not racist or reverse racist, but calling a race a "protected class" is. The easiest way to get around all this is just to look at the background of the applicant so you can include race in the decision without getting so many people upset.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Caligastia


            If everyone except white males are considered the "protected classes", then isnt that discrimination against white males?
            This is sooooooo typical how anti-AA people argue against affirmative action.

            They use the fallicious strawman argument, such as the one that Cal is using with this thread by distorting AA as being reverse discrimination.



            I guess this is the era of the whining, paraonoid white, straight man.
            Last edited by MrFun; June 5, 2002, 11:21.
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            • #7
              Interestingly, the racial makeup of this university is only 10% white. They seem very proud of this.
              ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
              ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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              • #8
                Originally posted by MrFun
                They use the fallicious strawman argument, such as the one that DinoDoc is using with this thread by distorting AA as being reverse discrimination.
                Dinodoc posted here?


                I guess this is the era of the whining, paraonoid white, straight man.
                You dont have to be paranoid to see that everyone except the White Man is in a "protected class".
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                ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                • #9
                  Cal, there is a difference between protecting minority groups and discriminating against white, straight men.

                  But please, continue using that overused strawman argument of "reverse discrimination."

                  Sorry about the name mistake --- I corrected my post and put your name in, Cal.
                  A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                  • #10
                    I don't get why they are "protecting" women though. There is more of them in colleges and universities than men.
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                    "At least there were some thoughts went into Apocalypse." - Urban Ranger
                    "Apocalype was a great game." - DrSpike
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MrFun
                      Cal, there is a difference between protecting minority groups and discriminating against white, straight men.

                      But please, continue using that overused strawman argument of "reverse discrimination."
                      So you dont think that including every racial group except white men in the "protected class" discriminates against white men?
                      ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                      ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                      • #12
                        Race shouldnt be a consideration for college. Just like it shouldn't be for a job. A resume or application should be enough. Best candidates get the job, best students get the acceptance. Cut and Dry.

                        Being coddled and pampered doesn't help anyone.
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                        • #13
                          AA isn't necessarily "reverse discrimination", but if you say:

                          -If you are not white, you are protected

                          folllowed by:

                          -If you are protected, we will be more likely to let you in

                          -Then it is clear that non-white people are more likely to be let in than white people.

                          Therefore, white people are being discriminated against, since they have less opportunity to be let in than non-white people.
                          I refute it thus!
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Caligastia


                            So you dont think that including every racial group except white men in the "protected class" discriminates against white men?
                            No I do not.


                            The reason is because businesses and universities are agressively seeking out equally qualified minority group members over white men.

                            This is not reverse discrimination because businesses and universities still hire white men --- but, only when they have achieved the hiring or accepting of the number of minority group members that they seek.

                            They do not exclude every single white applicant in a business or university.
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                            • #15
                              What did I ever do to you, Mr. Fun? Just for that: "The Village People suck and Madonna lip synchs!"
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