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  • #76
    Caligastia, I remember a lunch conversation with a gentleman from England some years ago who made a series of disparaging remarks about the Italians, and concluded his remarks with the observation that "they are a different race that we are after all."
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    • #77

      Cal, it is called policy brutality.
      When did Rodney King attack the police officers??
      He definitely did not deserve that beating -- no one does.
      Now, I think that you might be racist.

      Originally posted by Arrian
      Rodney King? Yeah, and the officers got off, and that was wrong. An abuse of the law.

      How about OJ Simpson? True, that was a fame thing rather than a race thing, but that wasn't justice either.

      We've got to make the best laws we can, and try to uphold them. That we will sometimes fail is obvious.

      -Arrian
      Yes, I agree -- the OJ case was another example of injustice.
      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by MrFun

        Cal, it is called policy brutality.
        When did Rodney King attack the police officers??
        He definitely did not deserve that beating -- one does.
        You didnt see Rodney attack the police because the media didnt show it. Rodney has a long history of violence, and Im not suprised the police acted in the way they did. Most people when attacked instinctively fight back.
        ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
        ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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        • #79
          DP
          The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Ned
            Caligastia, I remember a lunch conversation with a gentleman from England some years ago who made a series of disparaging remarks about the Italians, and concluded his remarks with the observation that "they are a different race that we are after all."
            Provide me with his address, and (if he's local) I'll piss through his letterbox for you.
            The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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            • #81
              We have an echo.
              The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Ned
                Caligastia, I remember a lunch conversation with a gentleman from England some years ago who made a series of disparaging remarks about the Italians, and concluded his remarks with the observation that "they are a different race that we are after all."
                Can anyone really tell an italian by the way they look? They are a pretty mixed bunch.
                ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                • #83
                  Chris62,

                  I believe your getting to the seond part of my statement. Part of eduction is educating the parties themselves to the benefits of having and stiving for eduction. At present it appears to be considered a chumps way of life.

                  I don't have an answer for it. You see all too often a stigma attached to those leaving the streets in favor of educating themselves as 'Not keeping it real". My bet is that gentleman with the 4.0 was an outcast. Shame if my bet is on themoney.

                  Og
                  "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                  “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Ron Jeremy
                    We have an echo.
                    Your big enough to hit two for one Ron, you old Bastard.
                    I believe Saddam because his position is backed up by logic and reason...David Floyd
                    i'm an ignorant greek...MarkG

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                    • #85
                      Whats the matter Chegitz? Did the big, bad racists make you cry?
                      ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                      ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Caligastia


                        You didnt see Rodney attack the police because the media didnt show it. Rodney has a long history of violence, and Im not suprised the police acted in the way they did. Most people when attacked instinctively fight back.
                        What source proved that Rodney King attacked the police??

                        If those police officers lied about being attacked first, YOU probably would believe it, wouldn't you?
                        A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                        • #87
                          When an Italian tells me it is pasta, I check beneath the sauce to make sure.

                          www.my-piano.blogspot

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Caligastia
                            Whats the matter Chegitz? Did the big, bad racists make you cry?
                            No, I went into the chat room for a while and forgot about the forum. Then I had dinner, then I watched some stupid Hallmark movie with bunnygrrl, then some news. Came back, read some articles on TheNation.com, checked my downloads, then began browsing here again.

                            Really, you shouldn't assume that I have nothing besides Apolyton to do just cuz I'm unemployed. Heck, I even have a swimming pool to go take a dip in (though as hot as it's been, it's not very cool and refreshing right now).

                            It's called a life. I suggest you look into having one.
                            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                            • #89
                              In order to allow the socio/economically disadvantaged a chance one can not realistically expect a one generational change to have any meaningful effect. Eduction is a long term investment and if emphasized properly across multiple generations will allow an evening of the playing field.

                              And that should include "whites" so to speak. If you protect one class you discriminate against the others. For that matter if you protect one "class" or "sex" you discriminate the others.
                              “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
                              Or do we?

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                              • #90
                                As I have stated so often before on these AA debates, why don't we use admissions policies etc. that take into account an applicant's background but not their race or ethnicity. Thus prospective students whose parents never attended college would get a slight bonus to their enrollment 'score' etc. etc. Can't we clear the path of access for everyone in our society who deserves a helping hand without breaking out our racial scorecards and deciding which group won the point? Imagine how both race relations and support for programs that help the disadvantaged would be improved by this simple committment to color blindness.
                                He's got the Midas touch.
                                But he touched it too much!
                                Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!

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