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    SAN FRANCISCO, California (AP) -- An Air Force colonel has been suspended for writing a letter in which he called President Bush "a joke" and accused him of allowing the September 11 attacks to happen because "his presidency was going nowhere."

    The letter from Lt. Col. Steve Butler was published May 26 in The (Monterey County) Herald.

    "He did nothing to warn the American people because he needed this war on terrorism," Butler wrote. "His daddy had Saddam and he needed Osama. His presidency was going nowhere. ... This guy is a joke."

    Butler, who called Bush's alleged silence "sleazy and contemptible," had been vice chancellor for student affairs at the Defense Language Institute in Monterey. He was suspended May 29 pending an investigation, Air Force spokeswoman Valerie Burkes said Tuesday.




    In the last week or so its been said that 5 or 6 foriegn nations told bush that an attack would happen in the week or 2 before sept 11. IT wouldn't suprise me at all that they let the attack happen to start a war.. It wouldn't be the first time and definately would be the last time.. Can you remember the last time a new president was elected in the US that didn't start a war somewhere?
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  • #2
    It wouldn't be the first time and definately would be the last time..
    What was the first time?

    Can you remember the last time a new president was elected in the US that didn't start a war somewhere?
    Truman?

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    • #3
      It's never happened. The longest period of time the US has gone without it's troops being in conflict somewhere on the globe is about 12 months.

      However, criticizing your boss is not considered a good way to keep your job.
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      • #4
        You know, I've been hypothesizing about this as well...

        Like Pearl Harbor, our recent governmental administration may have known that these attacks were going to occur and let them happen anyway. Dubya's approval rating prior 9/11 was dismally low, his proposed bills weren't getting through the Senate, ENRON!!!!!, and all the other little subterfuge plays his administration was pulling. They may have let this happen to improve his rating and for the aftermath effects.

        Another theory a classmate has hypothesized is that post 9/11, the governmental institutions are being granted overwhelming powers and my friends theory is that the current administration is using the war on terror to gain more powers to the government.....He says that they are turning into "Big Brother" by using the War On Terror as a smoke screen.

        I'll probably be called "unpatriotic" but then again, so were dissident germans in Nazi Germany.

        Just something to think about.

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        • #5
          Enron happened after 911.
          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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          • #6
            Ahhh, but documents have been presented that show that execs of Enron HEAVILY supported Bush's campaign for president. They funnelled tons of moola out of the business, leaving the rest of the workers sitting on the curb...screwed. This was only brought to the public eye after 9/11, which you are right. But Enron's support of Dubya was there from the beginning.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by chegitz guevara
              Enron happened after 911.

              sure but don't you think with all those calls between the white house and enron bush didn't know what was going on? Trust me in situations like that bush and major mutual funds would have known months in advance what was going on. And with 9/11 the US got sooo many warnings from other governments that only an idiot wouldn't have been able to piece things together. Not to mention all those options trades etc.

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              • #8
                It's never happened. The longest period of time the US has gone without it's troops being in conflict somewhere on the globe is about 12 months.
                Note the word 'start'.
                Last edited by GeneralTacticus; June 5, 2002, 04:00.

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                • #9
                  I don't guess anyone has thought about questioning where this officer was sending the letter to and how it got published? But then again, I wouldn't want to ruin your conispiracy theory convention you got going on here.
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                  • #10
                    No one dislikes the Bush administration more than I, but to think that he and those close to him would sacrifice nearly 3,000 innocent people, simply for political gain... it's more than a little paranoid.

                    The man is drooling, idiotic buffoon. He is NOT a monster.
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                    • #11
                      Is this really a big deal? How many of you think that you would keep your job after calling your boss an evil, tyranical monster in a newspaper?
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                      • #12
                        There might be a free speech issue here, DD. He is being punished by the government for speaking his mind...
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                        • #13
                          I don't think that soldiers have free speech in this case. Where's one of the Poly miltary people when you need them?
                          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                          • #14
                            It's extremely unlikely they saw the full extent coming and said let's just let it happen. When you scale it down, and they just saw a bigger terrorist attack coming and let it happen for political convenience, I'd see that as somewhat plausible.

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                            • #15
                              Its not a free speech issue. The President is the commander in chief of the armed forces. Theres no military that I'm aware of that allows a junior to be insubordinate to a senior without punishment.
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