Russia in ten years

[DanS]

Here's the reference...

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/russia-military-general-01f.html

[bogi]

Kalliningrad should belong to Lithuania by now according to the Postdam treaty. What I dont understand why dose the baltic mean so much to the russians? I mean they are the bigest country in the world.

[Saras]

Originally posted by bogi
Kalliningrad should belong to Lithuania by now according to the Postdam treaty. What I dont understand why dose the baltic mean so much to the russians? I mean they are the bigest country in the world.

Technically speaking there was no LIthuania when the Potsdam treaty was signed.

You could argue that:

1. It should go to Russia as war bounty
2. Should go to Germany cause they ran the place for the last 600 years and that is where the modern German state arose from, pretty much.
3. It should go to Lithuania as the original inhabitants and the roots of Lithuanian culture are from the ancient Prussians that lived there - plus before Russia occupied it, Lithuanians were the most populous nationality in that area - now they're not, due to Soviet genocide and colonisation by ethnic Russians.

[bogi]

I thought it was supposed to be part of the Lithuanian SSR?

[Ecthy]

Saras, the modern German state is in no way linked to Prussia. On the contrary, the federal republic udnerstands herself as some kind of counter part to Prussia. It should be German anyway

[Roland]

"where the modern German state arose from, pretty much."

ARRGHHH!! HERESY!!!! BURN HIM!!!!

[Ecthy]

Translated into human language, ROland basically said the same as I did

[Roland]

Just with a touch more emotion.

[Ecthy]

Too true.

The federal republic of Germany is what Austria always wanted to be

[Roland]

Nope. It's the old third germany.

[Ecthy]

That was lame.

It is a counter part to Prussia that is actually successful

[Roland]

Why lame ?

"It is a counter part to Prussia that is actually successful"

How is that mutually exclusive ? I always liked the Triasidee.

[Ecthy]

*closes window with google*

Hmm... didn't quite do a search for the time, when was that one relevant? Seems interesting, if a bit too much in favour of the Southerners though. Who knows what would nowadays be considered Hochdeutsch

[Roland]

Hochdeutsch ist jedenfalls nicht plattdeutsch.

Trias was relevant during the austro-prussian dualism, so from about 1750-1866. There isn't just a territorial almost identity between the BRD 1949 and the german "third" states, but also in the constitution. The Grundgesetz has more to do with Frankfurt 1849 than with 1871 or Weimar. And Frankfurt was related to the (mostly south) german state constitutions adopted after 1814.

[Ecthy]

Yeah, Paulskirche and the like. I actually possess a wall poster with some copy of that constitution, at least an excerpt of it, about human rights. Appears pretty progressive. What is the Austrian constitution of today based on? IS it the same as in the time from 19-38?

Plattdeutsch war gar nicht der Punkt. Aber wenn BAyern und Österreicher 2/3 der Vormacht ausmachen, dürfte der Einfluss des Dialekts auf den gesamten Sprachraum gefährlich groß sein