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I didn't know Russia's GDP is that high.... 
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Well, at least we know their economy is growing then.Originally posted by Roland
I didn't know Russia's GDP is that high....
"how would you look at it?"
Sounds like Chicago, 1930s.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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I hate Civ3!Comment
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Fiercely independent??Originally posted by DanS
Vagabond: Ah, I see. When I look at him, I see somebody who is fiercely independent and who is competently reforming the Georgian system.
Not quite appropriate characteristic for someone who is obsessed with converting his country into a Western pet state. The term "pet state" in relation to Georgia was used e.g. by Stratfor.com and by New York Times.
Interestingly enough, his foreign policy choice is highly personalized in contradiction with the "objective needs" of his country. Shevadnadze knows that he will always be well received in the West for his role in the late Soviet Union. Just the same as Gorby. On the other hand, he is disliked in Russia for the same reason. This is the reason for his bias. Only a new guy at the head of Georgia can break this vicious cycle and build a healthy relationship with Russia.
Notwithstanding, while looking through the CIA World Factbook, I was surprised at the fact that Georgia's GDP (PPP) per capita is 1.5 higher than in the neighboring Armenia and Azerbaijan...
(does the CIA make favorable adjustments for pet states?? ). It is also higher than in Ukraine, and only less than 2 times lower than in Russia. Does this speak to Shevardnadze's competence??
Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.Comment
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I don't see the red banner in this way. The Soviet history and the history of communist movements don't entirely reduce to Stalin's repressions.Originally posted by Saras
And a swastika next to it, just to be consistent.
Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.Comment
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That's true. Lithuania is much better in this respect.Originally posted by Saras
What pisses me off is that Latvia and Estonia in fact do these things to some extent, but Lithuania is tainted as well, although none of these ever happened.
Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.Comment
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You seem to claim that you don't have the "krysha" system in Lithuania.Originally posted by Saras
Sort out the corruption, get some rule of law, dismantle the "krysha" system where you can't do any business without paying the "krysha", and you'll see wonderful results.
Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.Comment
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There's always Lenin's repressions.Originally posted by The Vagabond
The Soviet history and the history of communist movements don't entirely reduce to Stalin's repressions.
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I don't claim, I proudly state it as a fact.Originally posted by The Vagabond
You seem to claim that you don't have the "krysha" system in Lithuania.
Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.Comment
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[stupid revisionist mode]Well, Hitler also created the VW Kaffer and built autobahns[/stupid revisionist mode]Originally posted by The Vagabond
I don't see the red banner in this way. The Soviet history and the history of communist movements don't entirely reduce to Stalin's repressions.Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.Comment
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Congratulations then.Originally posted by Saras
I don't claim, I proudly state it as a fact.
BTW, according to the CIA World Factbook, it turns out that GDP (PPP) per capita in Russia is higher than in Lithuania! Then why is it a common belief that living standards in Lithuania are higher than in Russia?
Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.Comment
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Yes, but most of that GDP is concentrated in Moscow while regions are in the sh!ts.Originally posted by The Vagabond
Congratulations then.
BTW, according to the CIA World Factbook, it turns out that GDP (PPP) per capita in Russia is higher than in Lithuania! Then why is it a common belief that living standards in Lithuania are higher than in Russia?
It might have changed, though - our 2001 GDP/cap is like 4000 EUR. What's Russia's?
And please, don't use CIA's econ stats - they're some of the crappiest.Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.Comment
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You are pretty much right here, Saras. Although some other big cities are not doing bad either.Originally posted by Saras
Yes, but most of that GDP is concentrated in Moscow while regions are in the sh!ts.
Sorry for using CIA, but this is what I've got at hand right now.It might have changed, though - our 2001 GDP/cap is like 4000 EUR. What's Russia's?
GDP (PPP) per capita (2000 est.):
Lithuania $7,300
Russia $7,700
Well, this is PPP (purchase power parity). If counted in dollars at the exchange rate, yours would be about twice higher.Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.Comment
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"Well, Hitler also created the VW Kaffer"
A VW coffee machine ?
"does the CIA make favorable adjustments for pet states??"
It's the "CIA fact book", right ? The connection is not the factbook of the CIA, but the book of "CIA facts".
About stats: I think Armenia is about equal with Georgia, and Russia roughly with Lithuania as far as GDP/capita goes. 7000 $ looks a bit much though....Comment
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