Communists, Capitalists, Whatever, Convince Me.

[Az]

yeah. It was real hard to become a member of the communist party .


My dad was a man of his own making , and he reached pretty far up the ladder. One of my father's friends used to coach the USSR's athletic team ( discus throwing ) . But still, no matter was life successful to them , or not very much so , they had nice lives. But look at what happened to them now!

[Asher]

Well most people who lived in the USSR would agree it was damn difficult to be a member of the communist party.

I say that because the last figures I saw for communist party members were so minute in comparison to the population that it was pretty comical...

[Ecthy]

In East Germany you had to be a member in order to get into a decent job career.

[Eli]

Umm... Let me know when you sort this out.

[Az]

yes , but even if you didn't have a CAREER , you had a job that would buy you stuff . I am not saying that that system was perfect , close to it , or even a good one, for that. But it was surely better that things are now. For East Germans, and surely for Russians, Ukrainians, Romanians, etc. the ones that did profit from the fall did so, like slovakia or the chech (sp?) republic, did so either because they were surrounded by rich countries, and had industries devloped there by socialist countries (like slovakia , for example , that had Yugoslavia pouring resources into it's Industrial capacity , so It would have a short time exporting certain goods to Western Europe. ).

[Ecthy]

Yes Dal, being a party member was not necessary. Many didn't join, out of protest. Because it was a dictatorship.

[Asher]

Communists are fun to watch because they're much like children with their minds full of ideological dreams with little to no grasp of reality.

[Az]

yes it was . .

But the GDP per Capita of East Germany was closing the gap to the GDP of West Germany in the 80s , you know.If the SU was democratic to a bigger degree and would advocate the virtues of democracy , as It did in it's beginning, pressure could be mounted on Germany. The problem with the thinking of the people upstairs wasn't mostly their socio-economical thinking, but their political will, and lack of visionaries. It's the rotting of the system by Briezhniev back at home base that caused the beginning of the rot.

[Frankychan]

Capitalism's laissez-faire attitude is what damages society.

*cough* ENRON *cough*

Did you know that they made deals in India to supply power plants and charged that government 5 times the going price? When the Indian govt couldn't pay, Enron got their buddies in our govt (CHENEY) to MAKE India pay up.

some of you may state costs of building and crap like that, but when investigators did some digging, they found that Enron had no basis for billing India so much.

Communism may be ideological, but capitalism's greed is far worse.

[VetLegion]

enron in croatia - also an affair of paying over the price for a power plant with guaranteed price of electircity well over market price. screw them, now they are bankrupt the deal is off and we get to keep our 350 million dollars+ and we can buy cheap electricity from europe (france has nuclear excess, finalnd may have some etc)

[chequita guevara]

Hey, we have a cell in Hawaii. Excellent.

Comrades, in the last year the Communist Party of Apolyton has grwon by more than 2000%! At this rate of expanision, we should achieve world liberation in the next decade!

[Imran Siddiqui]

*cough* ENRON *cough*

Um... didn't Enron break the law and would be breaking laws in any lassiez-faire economy (fraud is always illegal)

Che, are you doing that 'fuzzy math'?