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  • Communists, Capitalists, Whatever, Convince Me.

    With all the security mess around here I never had the chance to form an opinion about the economy stuff.

    Enlighten and convince me.
    "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

  • #2
    Communism is good because everyone has a chance to live well.

    Capitalism is bad because only the greedy and tricky bastards get rich while the rest is poor.

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    • #3
      That's the theory. It does look different in reality.

      Communism was a pretext for dicatorships all around the world.

      Capitalism is often sided with a social market economy in Europe (Sweden, Germany, that's about it actually ) and for some reason, capitalist countries are mostly democratic. Or fascist.

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      • #4
        Capitalism is bad because it causes economic inequality and famine. Communism is bad because it causes economic inequality, famine, and dictatorship. Anarchism is better then both. There's a good introduction to it at http://www.anarchyfaq.org
        "Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based on five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, and county commissioners." - Edward Abbey
        http://www.anarchyfaq.org

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        • #5
          *waves black flag*
          go with libertarian socialism, best of both
          Stop Quoting Ben

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          • #6
            Communism rounds everybody down to the lowest common denominator, except the leadership. Reduces peoples options in life. The ultimate nanny state (or big brother), and it usually comes into being over the dead bodies of millions.

            Capitalism works for the country its hosted in, up to a point. Certainly the greed factor detracts alot but the sword is double edged and many of the high sided have quickly found their way back to the general population. Its made alot of things possible including this. And can be a means by which ANYONE can do ANYTHING. It has its faults but it has worked alot better then communism ever has or even looked like it might.

            Fascist - same as communist - this is my idea now its your as well.

            Anarchy - is a non-existent state that if you take into account social norms and latent assumptions can never exist. The strongest policeman is in your head. Humans are socially dependant creatures that cannot survive without the group. So just not possible.


            Cheese eating surrender monkees - Chris 62

            BlackStone supporting our troops

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            • #7
              nah, too lazy.

              well...
              As short as I can.
              planned economies are better because they have the potential to be more efficient with the growth of technology.

              communism in particular is a system that ensures that everyone will get an equal chance.

              oh, and remember this , anarchists are loony . They want mobs of people to burn down your house and take everything in it .

              I am sure there will be takers.
              urgh.NSFW

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              • #8
                read my sig
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • #9
                  After reading the first paragraph in that Anarchy FAQ my healthy sense of logic LOLed and immideately dissmised the idea.
                  "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dalgetti
                    planned economies are better because they have the potential to be more efficient with the growth of technology.

                    communism in particular is a system that ensures that everyone will get an equal chance.
                    And I have the potential to be better President than Bush. This means nothing.
                    "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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                    • #11
                      *Thinks hard about what kind of argument is going to sway Eli*
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                      "Spirit merges with matter to sanctify the universe. Matter transcends to return to spirit. The interchangeability of matter and spirit means the starlit magic of the outermost life of our universe becomes the soul-light magic of the innermost life of our self." - Dennis Kucinich, candidate for the U. S. presidency
                      "That’s the future of the Democratic Party: providing Republicans with a number of cute (but not that bright) comfort women." - Adam Yoshida, Canada's gift to the world

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                      • #12


                        that was a punch below the waist!

                        And I have the potential to be better President than Bush. This means nothing.
                        well don't you think that society would benefit from having a better president?
                        urgh.NSFW

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dalgetti
                          communism in particular is a system that ensures that everyone will get an equal chance..
                          Actually it doesn`t. The only equality is that it teachs paranoia by the state against the people. The only equality that it has every actually delivered to the people is that they have all the same powers in election of their leaders - None.
                          Cheese eating surrender monkees - Chris 62

                          BlackStone supporting our troops

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                          • #14
                            Anyway, if we have a ratings scale like this:

                            1: Pure capitalism, Libertopia

                            ...

                            5: Mixed economy, with capitalist and socialist elements

                            ...

                            9: Pure communism

                            ...then best alternative would be somewhere around 4. Anything under 3 or over 7, and that strings section from Peter and the Wolf that starts playing in my head every time I hear something particularily utopian, well, starts playing, and I know that system's not gonna work.
                            "Spirit merges with matter to sanctify the universe. Matter transcends to return to spirit. The interchangeability of matter and spirit means the starlit magic of the outermost life of our universe becomes the soul-light magic of the innermost life of our self." - Dennis Kucinich, candidate for the U. S. presidency
                            "That’s the future of the Democratic Party: providing Republicans with a number of cute (but not that bright) comfort women." - Adam Yoshida, Canada's gift to the world

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                            • #15
                              BS: oh, and I guess, your money gives you much bigger power.
                              urgh.NSFW

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