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Originally posted by H Tower
your name's actually correct.
Go Star TREK!
your name's actually correct.
Go Star TREK!
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sorry. SW= Bigger. Badder. And, Capitalist.Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring. -
Star Wars has Natalie Portman AND big battles.
Star Trek just can't compete.
I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).Comment
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Dr. Who? Never heard of it...Comment
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That would just be America, then GP.
British series started in 1963 about an enigmatic time traveller known only as "The Doctor". Continued through 7 incarnations (actors) of the Doctor until 1989, when the series was rested. To this day it continues in officially licensed CD stories, two new fiction adventures a month in print, countless other merchandise and has almost been fully released on video after 19 years of continuous releases. Continuing rumours of a new TV series/movie continue to circulate, but so far nothing except for the 1996 telemovie (shot in America) starring Paul McGann has eventuated.
The longest running Sci-Fi series of ALL TIME. A lot of the issues that showed up in Star Trek, Star Wars et al. were shown in Doctor Who beforehand. Has featured many top notch British actors, and for a while Douglas Adams was the script editor.
At its height in the '70s has been estimated at having 150 odd million viewers worldwide. It may be less visible than than Star titled ones, but in many minds, VASTLY superior.
/Rant off.
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Although On Topic for a moment...
Star Trek? Don't make me laugh. I do watch it, but it never is consistently good - they will follow one or two great stories with tedium for weeks on end. Star Wars is my pick here.Comment
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Hey, I'm American and I watched Dr. who a lot growing up. They had a tv movie here a year ago i think it was and it was pretty bad. But the series was always cool. My mom hated it though.Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
That would just be America, then GP.
It doesn't make any sense she would always say.
Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul TighComment
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The US did get a block of episodes at some point, but I've met very few Americans who saw them. And yes, there're a LOT who agree on the awfulness of the TV movie! It may have had better effects than any other Dr Who episode, but it just bit the big one.
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I think we're comparing apples and oranges folks.
Star Wars is space mythology, while Trek is serial drama with comedic elements.
It would be like comparing Red Dwarf and Dr. Who, two excellent but very different types of Sci-fi shows.
I think Trek was an awesome example of character development, in all its incarnations. Some of the stories were weak, some good, some really strong. But through it all, the characters were interesting and grew with the show.
Star Wars is much more akin to a universal tale of loss, discovery and redemption that, unfortunately, succumbed to its own colossal weight and expectation (much like a couple of the poorer Trek films) but is still a great and sweeping saga that needs to be judged as a unique whole when it concludes.
Both have really created a groundswell for fantasy and imagination, and should be esteemed for that.Life and death is a grave matter;
all things pass quickly away.
Each of you must be completely alert;
never neglectful, never indulgent.Comment
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Your right, but to me the people in control of Trek seems to be jamming it down our throats. They can't imagine a year without a Trek series going on and IMO it's killing the frachise. The pump out anything with the Trek logo on it and do so with the knowledege that fans will just accept it without comment. Unfortunaltey Lucus seems to have taken a cue from themOriginally posted by SuperSneak
I think we're comparing apples and oranges folks.
Star Wars is space mythology, while Trek is serial drama with comedic elements.
It would be like comparing Red Dwarf and Dr. Who, two excellent but very different types of Sci-fi shows.
I think Trek was an awesome example of character development, in all its incarnations. Some of the stories were weak, some good, some really strong. But through it all, the characters were interesting and grew with the show.
Star Wars is much more akin to a universal tale of loss, discovery and redemption that, unfortunately, succumbed to its own colossal weight and expectation (much like a couple of the poorer Trek films) but is still a great and sweeping saga that needs to be judged as a unique whole when it concludes.
Both have really created a groundswell for fantasy and imagination, and should be esteemed for that.
Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul TighComment
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What about Jeri Ryan? Terry Farrel?Star Wars has Natalie Portman AND big battles."Beauty is not in the face...Beauty is a light in the heart." - Kahlil Gibran
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Oh, they both have serious flaws, Sprayber, but boy do I cherish SNG and the first two Star Wars movies.
And Jeri Ryan and Terry Farrel are both mega-babes.Life and death is a grave matter;
all things pass quickly away.
Each of you must be completely alert;
never neglectful, never indulgent.Comment
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On the one hand, you have the Jedi, whose philosophy doesn't make much sense; on the other you have the Vulcans, whose hardcore rationalist philosophy makes sense. So, on the philosophical level, its one point for Star Trek and none for Star Wars.
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They're both dead.Comment
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Star Wars is better!
Not only does it have cooler villains, but it is a dystopia which IMHO is more believable than the Star Trek utopian vision of humanity.
Star Wars! Wooooo!
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Star Trek well until TNG of course. everything else sucksComment
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