Prisons should be racially segregated to reduce incidences of rape

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Caligastia
You have some good ideas there Seeker. The problem with most prisons is that the prisoners are molly-coddled thanks to the "cry for more human, open-concept prisons" as you said.

Why don't you spend a day there to find out exactly how coddled those prisoners are?

[MrFun]

And what about white inmates raping black inmates??

Let's not ignore the other side of this issue.
Or has someone already posted about this?

[TCO]

Originally posted by MrFun
And what about white inmates raping black inmates??

Let's not ignore the other side of this issue.
Or has someone already posted about this?

Sometimes I wonder about your brainpower. Read the articles that were linked. They discuss the prevelance of that type of action and say that it is rare. Do you have something else to contribute here?

[TCO]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Why don't you spend a day there to find out exactly how coddled those prisoners are?

I don't beleive that they are "coddled". But I do think that if you take my solution. "Order and discipline" rather than segregation, you will have to make several changes in the prisons...some of which will be "harsh".

[Saint Marcus]

rape in dutch prisons doesn't happen, or happen very rarely. How common is it in other countries? Are there any stats on it? We all know the stereotypes though.

[chequita guevara]

Order and discipline are fine, GP. It's just that some people seem to be under the delusion that prison isn't such a bad place to be, and the prisoners do no work and have a pretty easy time just playing in the yard or watching tv. The truth is, prison is an extremely brutal place, and not just from the inmates. There is plenty of abuse from guards as well. Prison is designed to break your humanity, and it's very effective at doing so.

[Winston]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Prison is designed to break your humanity...

That's one man's view. Most people I know seem to think prisons are designed to keep criminals off the street. But what do we know.

[Ned]

"5) Whites are perceived as weaker (one inmate told HRW that "The belief that all or most white men are effete or gay is very prevalent, & that whites are cowards... Whites are prey and even a punk will be supported if he beats up a white dude.")"

The problem is a society that that turns white people into liberal wimps.

[chequita guevara]

Which is why white man (far more likely to go to prison than white women), are more likely to be conservative.

[TCO]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Order and discipline are fine, GP. It's just that some people seem to be under the delusion that prison isn't such a bad place to be, and the prisoners do no work and have a pretty easy time just playing in the yard or watching tv. The truth is, prison is an extremely brutal place, and not just from the inmates. There is plenty of abuse from guards as well. Prison is designed to break your humanity, and it's very effective at doing so.

Some of the changes needed to prevent rape (and murder and battery) in prison would be unpopular with the inmates.

[TCO]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Which is why white man (far more likely to go to prison than white women), are more likely to be conservative.

He was being cute, Che...

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by GP
Some of the changes needed to prevent rape (and murder and battery) in prison would be unpopular with the inmates.

Going to prison in the first place is pretty unpopular.

[TCO]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Going to prison in the first place is pretty unpopular.

Sheeet yeah!! I lived across from the jail when I was in Breck. Saw the orange suiters doing work, etc.

But I am serious. If you really want to change things, you are going to make some waves. I think it's worth it. To prevent this type of abuse in prisons and to send a societal message to the inmates that society is in charge and that pack behavior will not be tolerated. Will be squashed hard...

[chequita guevara]

I agree with you. Personally, I think the whole prison system needs to be overhauled, from top to bottom. Make prisons more disciplinary, safer, and at the same time try and educate these guys and give them some usefull skills. I think the object should be not just punishment, but trying to reduce recidivism (it's at 60% right now). Also, parole shouldn't simply release you onto the streets, but should stick you in a halfway house. The vast majority of people leaving prison are unprepared to cope with life on the outside.

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by GP


Sheeet yeah!! I lived across from the jail when I was in Breck. Saw the orange suiters doing work, etc.

But I am serious. If you really want to change things, you are going to make some waves. I think it's worth it. To prevent this type of abuse in prisons and to send a societal message to the inmates that society is in charge and that pack behavior will not be tolerated. Will be squashed hard...

Its not gonna happen though.