A Tribute to the Persecuted White, Hetero, Man

[Caligastia]

Maybe you dont see a need for these white advocacy groups MrFun, but to accuse them of being racists is racist. You obviously dont really believe in equal rights for all.

[MrFun]

I hate double posts.

[MrFun]

Cal, I am VERY much for equal rights.

Those type of people in white advocacy gorups are not necessarily racist, but delusioned, paranoid, insecure, or for some of them -- actually racist.

Since you posted on my thread, care to answer my two initial questions? I even give permission for use of imagination and creativity to provide me with some comic relief.

[Inverse Icarus]

we have a "culture club" in our school, where people can join and represent their cultures (ie we saw a traditional japanese dance, we saw some indian dance).

we were FORCED to see it, because our princpal has a pet project entitled "A World of Difference". he also FORCED us to sign some stupid "contract" pledging allegiance to unbiased, anti-racist propaganda. forcing people to sign something isn't going to stop it. we've had 3 race-related fights this year, despite the programs "cramming it down your throat" attitude.

[Guynemer]

Jeez, how awful for you, Uber. Maybe it was all that "cultural enrichment" that forced you to proudly display Nazi and other white supremacist symbols.

On the other hand, maybe you're just a jackass.

[MrFun]

Geez, Guy -- try to avoid flaming and trolling so much.

Some people just do not realize that they're ignorant.

And Uber does have one point -- there are right ways, and there are wrong ways to implement cultural appreciation in our schools.

[Inverse Icarus]

Originally posted by Guynemer
Jeez, how awful for you, Uber. Maybe it was all that "cultural enrichment" that forced you to proudly display Nazi and other white supremacist symbols.

On the other hand, maybe you're just a jackass.

"cultural enrichment" my ass. there was one presentation where several african american girls got up on the stage. i was planning to see some traditional african dance or something, but they all walked out in ripped jeans and halter tops.

still, i was still thinking, maybe even *hoping* for a traditional african dance.

then the music started.

the first words out of the tape recording were "yo yo yo mah nigg--" and i immediately thought "oh what a great example to represent your culture with".

it was far from enriching, unless you consider "enriching" to mean "adding fertilizer to".

[Lonestar]

Re: A Tribute to the Persecuted White, Hetero, Man

Originally posted by MrFun
I will try to contain my laughter as some of you guys try to give me legitimate examples in answer to those two questions.

Cromwell and the Potato Famine don't count?

[MrFun]

Lonestar, do Irish really belong with the white Northern European race just because of their geographic location?

I think you know what I really meant by white Northern European: English, German, French, Dutch, Scandinavian.

Irish certainly are of a white race, and they have been repeatedly subjected to crimes against humanity.

But this is what I meant by white Northern Europeans -- the ones listed above.

[Aeson]

On a serious note, there were forms of persecution on whites in this country early on. Irish immigrants were treated rather badly at times. Indentured servants didn't have things all that great either, although they were doing something to improve their position. Not what you'd compare to slavery, but just about on par with how homosexuals have been treated in the past.

There is also a form of financial oppression. It can be overcome, but it's still there. Children are born into poverty and/or ignorant surroundings, and as such are denied opportunities they might otherwise have had. It affects the poor and always has, regardless of race.

I don't see what "a long history" has to do with anything though. If I had been born with different colored skin that shouldn't change anything. I still wouldn't be a slave. Dwelling on past wrongs just leads to future wrongs.

I find white advocacy groups repulsive, not because of the skin color they promote, but because they are advocacy groups. If people would stop thinking about things in terms of race we would all be better off. A humanitarian advocacy group that encompasses anyone trying to get their fair shake would be much more powerful than all these seperate groups, and wouldn't divide us against each other.

It's the only advocacy group that should exist.

[Jon Miller]

this is just rediculous

Jon Miller

[chequita guevara]

The Irish wren't cosidered white for a long time, you know. There's a good book on the subject of Irish oppression, How the Irish Became White.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by MrFun
Lonestar, do Irish really belong with the white Northern European race just because of their geographic location?

Yes....

I think you know what I really meant by white Northern European: English, German, French, Dutch, Scandinavian.

Irish certainly are of a white race, and they have been repeatedly subjected to crimes against humanity.

But this is what I meant by white Northern Europeans -- the ones listed above.

Well, hell yes. Don't you remember all that "population transfer" the Russians did to the Germans post WW2?

Dutch were oppressed by the Spanish.

[MrFun]

Ok, thank you for your answers, Aeson and Lone Star. There were whites who persecuted other whites because of their race.

Now, have heterosexuals been persecuted because of their sexual orientation??

[Aeson]

Originally posted by MrFun
Irish certainly are of a white race, and they have been repeatedly subjected to crimes against humanity.

Quite a loaded question you are forming there MrFun. If you qualify only 'non-persecuted' peoples as white northern Europeans then of course they haven't been persecuted.