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  • #16
    Originally posted by DarthVeda

    And besides, it isn't Microsoft who's holding up Ghostbusters 3.

    And how exactly does holding up Ghostbusters 3 make Sony evil?
    Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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    • #17
      Mircosoft defined evil, and Bill Gates is the One True Great Satan.
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      • #18
        Oh, it has to be Sony... with all they control. It's like Coca Cola. You stop and go, they own that?
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        • #19
          Originally posted by DarthVeda
          They control the formats on which certain media is recorded, the manufacture of the materials recorded on, the material recorded with. They are masters of vertical and horizontal monopoly.
          I am only aware of MD and "memory sticks."

          But I am not aware of Sony owning any petrochemical or semiconductor companies.

          Besides, those are at best niche markets.
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          • #20
            Oh give me a break, are you all this blind?

            How is Sony less evil?

            Do I need to remind you that they're at the forefront of RIAA and MPAA, that they charge consumers for peripherals that should have been bundled with game consoles to begin with (memory cards, ethernet, hard drive), that they have huge price markups on basic software and hardware, that they forced company like Bleem out of business, how they strongarm retailers by neglecting shipment of PS1/PS2 software until they comply with Sony's demands (see the Bleem debacle).

            MS? They assimilate talent. Like all companies do. Like Sony.

            People are being blind if they think MS' evilness is even remotely comparable to Sony's, being a giant Japanese company with a far more spotty record.

            I suggest people do research.

            Name one thing MS does that's evil, and it's guaranteed Sony has done it too. Plus more (RIAA, MPAA ring a bell)
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            • #21
              Ahem.

              MS is behind the UCITA, a vile attempt to legalise shrink-wrap licenses.

              that they have huge price markups on basic software and hardware, that they forced company like Bleem out of business, how they strongarm retailers by neglecting shipment of PS1/PS2 software until they comply with Sony's demands (see the Bleem debacle)
              MS is guilty of all these underhanded if not illegal tactics also, including strongarming OEMs.

              I am with Snappy on this one, though.
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              • #22
                I never said MS was not evil, I said sony is more evil.

                Comprende, Urban Ranger?

                I'd think you'd actually agree, if you'd look into Sony's history.

                The Japanese Government has almost no regulations on how Sony does business with non-Japanese businesses, and the results are quite apparent. They're worse at bullying than MS.

                The RIAA and MPAA components alone make them more evil, as far as I'm concerned. Everything else is extra.

                MS is behind the UCITA, a vile attempt to legalise shrink-wrap licenses.
                Oh the humanity?

                And please cite where MS overprices its products. I think you get an awful lot of software for the price of Windows, for example. If you think they're overpricing, then you've got a ****ed up set of values.
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                • #23
                  Can someone explain to me why MS is being prosecuted by both the US and EU in anti-trust cases, and why Sony isn't.

                  MS is obviously the most evil company in the world

                  And look at windows. They make a crap product, overcharge it, and force you to pay for it!
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                  • #24
                    Yeah, Sony might be evil but their products are great.
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                    • #25
                      unlike MS
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Saint Marcus
                        Can someone explain to me why MS is being prosecuted by both the US and EU in anti-trust cases, and why Sony isn't.
                        Because you can't have a monopoly in things like music and movies.

                        Evil != Monopoly, Evil == Evil.

                        And maybe you missed it when there was both European and American courts that dealt with the Bleem situation?

                        Not as high profile but there were still blatant legal issues.

                        MS is obviously the most evil company in the world

                        And look at windows. They make a crap product, overcharge it, and force you to pay for it!
                        You know the last two are redundant, no?

                        And you do know that this has nothing to do with being evil, right?

                        Do they teach you anything in European schools these days?

                        "The PS2 is a crap product, overcharge it, and force you to pay for it! The only reason people buy it is the software support."
                        Can you draw any parallels, genius?
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Asher
                          I suggest people do research.
                          Same to you, Asher. Do some research in business.
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                          For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Cloud9
                            Same to you, Asher. Do some research in business.
                            You've already used that troll elsewhere and it didn't work for you. You should try new techniques in debates, such as putting forth ideas and the like. That's how most people do it.
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                            • #29
                              I don't have time for that.
                              HAVE A DAY.
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                              "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                              For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                              • #30
                                How about Walmart?

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