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Originally posted by SlowwHand
The very word AGNOSTIC exists purely for the reason you say is not an issue.
Yes - it exists because people debate about the existience of god, but agnostics don't participate in that. Are agnostics "sitting ont he fence" because they don't care about that debate? Are they "leaving their options open" simply because they don't give a **** about what everyone else else does?
Originally posted by SlowwHand
Not me. As least an atheist is committed to a belief of some kind,
whether I agree or not.
An atheist is too wimpy to cast their lot one way or the other.
And MrFun. I explained it once, twice, thrice for Osweld.
If you can't follow the bouncing ball, it's not my responsibility.
Ok -- I reread your posts. So you did make your arguments. Still, thanks for the comic relief.
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Originally posted by SlowwHand
Not me. As least an atheist is committed to a belief of some kind,
whether I agree or not.
An agnostic is too wimpy to cast their lot one way or the other.
To me its more wimpy to give in to the arrogant egoism that says "I know God doesnt exist" than to admit "I dont know for sure because I dont know enough about the universe".
Those who exercise self-control over egoistic impulses are not "wimpy" IMO.
...people like to cry a lot...- Pekka ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority.- Snotty
Oh come on.
Religious people don't want to burn in Hell, so they do what they are trained is right.
Atheists don't believe in Hell, so screw it all.
Agnostics are just busy pissing their pants over what to believe.
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
I don't know if I count as a proper agnostic or what - my beliefs are seriously screwed at the moment, just like everything else about me.
I was thinking about this at the weekend, and I thought that no-one had ever explored the possibility that the best thing is just to go into the unknown with your head held high. I used to be a Christian but fell out of the faith because I wasn't up to it or good enough; I tried being atheistic but I know there's someone out there. Sometimes I shiver and feel like someone's watching over me, or something like that.
I know all this sounds pretty insane, but bear with me. I figured I didn't need to believe in what was going to happen when I died, I figured I could just...let it happen. Sounds a bit apathetic. I don't know how to explain it any better - it's like I don't really want to know what's going to happen, I want it just to happen, so I can react to it however I think best. I do believe that things don't just stop after you die, but I don't go any further than that - I want to find out rather than be told.
Someone call the men in white coats, cos I think I need them. Unless that made any sense to anyone.
"Love the earth and sun and animals, despise riches, give alms to every one that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others, hate tyrants, argue not concerning God, have patience and indulgence toward the people, take off your hat to nothing known or unknown . . . reexamine all you have been told at school or church or in any book, dismiss whatever insults your own soul, and your very flesh shall be a great poem and have the richest fluency" - Walt Whitman
Hey....hey HEY NOW! So I'm a bit like Mr.Fun. I was raised in the church, have gotten away from it but still have my belief that there is something out there so what does that make me? An Agnostic?
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He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
Originally posted by SlowwHand
Oh come on.
Religious people don't want to burn in Hell, so they do what they are trained is right.
You are over-generalizing. While I agree many in organised religion are there because of a fear of hellfire, there are also many "religious people" who are religious because they have experienced God in some way.
Atheists don't believe in Hell, so screw it all.
Many "religious people" dont believe in hell either. I dont. What do you mean by "religous people" anyway? People who believe in God or people who practice organised religion?
Agnostics are just busy pissing their pants over what to believe.
You could say that anyone who is unsure about anything is just "pissing their pants".
...people like to cry a lot...- Pekka ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority.- Snotty
You could say that anyone who is unsure about anything is just "pissing their pants".
Exactly. Now we're all clear on the subject.
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
Oh no. I know that the only automatic wrong decision, is no decision.
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
Originally posted by SlowwHand
Oh come on.
Religious people don't want to burn in Hell, so they do what they are trained is right.
Atheists don't believe in Hell, so screw it all.
Agnostics are just busy pissing their pants over what to believe.
I'm agnostic because I think that people who bicker at each other about whether god exists or not, who's god is better, what gender God is, ect.. are completely missing the point of religon, and are taking it all way too literally. Religon, in it's most basic form, is about philosphies, teachings, stories, and legends - not about whether or not there is a big guy in the sky.
I believe that there are a million different deffinitions of "God" - it's just a word, or a medaphore, for life, the workings of the universe, and existance.
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