Dutch - what's good about 'em?

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


Nor is it anything of which to be ashamed.

exactly

[Ned]

I have this view that the more liberated and well treated are women, the more civilized a society. Prostitution seems not only to be legal in Holland, but also open. Do Dutch women agree with this? Do they really approve of prostitution and their boyfriends and husbands visiting prostitutes?

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dutch?arent they german?oh wait their belgian....oh damn im so confused......

[Zopperoni]

Shut up, you DL

[Caligastia]

what blatant dl

[Saint Marcus]

that's the second one today

[iiiiiiiiiiiii]

Originally posted by Zopperoni
Shut up, you DL

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[Saint Marcus]

I have this view that the more liberated and well treated are women, the more civilized a society.

liberated? yeah. civilized? depending on your view.

Prostitution seems not only to be legal in Holland, but also open.

True on both counts.

Do Dutch women agree with this?

yes.

Do they really approve of prostitution and their boyfriends and husbands visiting prostitutes?

Now that's pushing it

of course they don't. It's still cheating.

[Saint Marcus]

who's behind it? andy? chris?

[Tom201]

I have this view that the more liberated and well treated are women, the more civilized a society. Prostitution seems not only to be legal in Holland, but also open. Do Dutch women agree with this? Do they really approve of prostitution and their boyfriends and husbands visiting prostitutes?

We call that a free market
Woman (and man) working in prostitution are organizised in their own Insitutions, getting regular health checks, pay taxes, get protected by the police, etc. IMO that is certainly a lot better than the american prostitution system, with pimps getting the money

Havent heard of anyone protesting against it yet.

[Hueij]

There were some Dutch people in WW2 who risked their lives to save the Jews. Some ended up in German concentration camps for their efforts, and some died there. I can never despise the Dutch people for their humanity in this time of testing. For the ones who delivered their neighbors to the Nazis I can only say that every good country has their bad apples. I judge the nation as an asset to humanity.

Sorry to spoil your party here Lincoln, but actually we have the worst record regarding the protection of Jews of all the occupied countries. Sure there where some individual heroes but most of us weren't home when a Jew knocked on the door for protection and most of us did nothing when they came for our Jewish neighbours... And I keep silent about how we treated the few survivors that came back from the camps...

[Boris Godunov]

Sadly, Hueij, what you say is true not only for the Netherlands, but for most of occupied Europe. Certainly in France and Poland, where local citizens often helped in rounding up the Jews.

[Hueij]

Originally posted by Ned
I have this view that the more liberated and well treated are women, the more civilized a society. Prostitution seems not only to be legal in Holland, but also open. Do Dutch women agree with this? Do they really approve of prostitution and their boyfriends and husbands visiting prostitutes?

Huh? What does legal prostitution have to do with husbands visiting prostitution? Legalisation is about recognising the rights of the women involved. They are now officially their own employer, with every official rights involved, or employees protected by our labour laws... A good thing IMO...

[Hueij]

But to get back to SnOOpy... I can't give you any reasons why you should be proud to be partly Dutch or why you should want to live here... I just like it here, a small country trying to find its way in the Big Bad World, decent standard of living, not enough political differences to beat each others head in, on the right path to important things like laws on euthanasia etc enz usw...

[Ned]

There are certain issues that I wish were simply given to women to decide. The legalization of prostitution and abortion are two of these. Men are not adversely affected to any great degree by either of these issues. However women are. I would respect their vote.

I believe the majority view of women in the United States remains that prostitution should remain illegal. However the argument that regulation of prostitution rather than its a illegalization provides a better life for prostitutes has a great deal force. There is a continuing discussion of this issue in San Francisco. However prostitution remain illegal.