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It's clear who is winning the console wars 
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let's face it, the only area the Xbox is doing ok in is North America, and perhaps the UK. In Continental Europe and Japan it's sales are crap.
Sure it's sales in Japan quadripled. Still it doesn't come close to the PS2's succes.
Only North America. Only there people buy the XBox. Not surprisingly of course, since MS is American. But the biggest market, Japan, remains out of MS's reach, as well as the world's 3rd biggest market, continental Europe. The PS2 is doing EXTREMELY well in all three main markets. It's clear who's winning the console war. And yes, it's already over, the PS2 can't be beaten anymore.
Better luck next time, Microsoft. I'm sure there will be a new console war in 2005 or so.Quod Me Nutrit Me DestruitComment
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Nintendo and Sony by the looks of it.Originally posted by Saint Marcus
It's clear who is winning the console wars
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Look at least week's sales, it was at 10,000, when I posted that.Originally posted by CapTVK
As Glonk has no problems coming up with selective 'facts' (without a source) and throwing out statements or reports that don't coincide with his POV. I thought it would be helpful to present some weekly sales figures from Japan. These figures come from Famitsu, a well known and respected gaming magazine which has been listing these hardware sales (collected from retailers, not the manufacturers) charts for years.
This one is the most recent hardware chart...
I can see how XBOX quadrupled their sales!
When I posted that it was clearly 4 days before these latest sales, so the little ad hominem doesn't work too well.
Japan is NOT the biggest market.But the biggest market, Japan, remains out of MS's reach
Look at Sony's slides from the E3 presentations on millions of units sold (software and hardware), and North America is roughly twice the size of the Japanese market in terms of volume.
Hardly. GC has way more games currently in Japan, that's it. It's also been out many many months (was it nearly a year?) before Xbox in Japan, and has strong Japanese brand new recognition.Nintendo and Sony by the looks of it.
Xbox is getting more games and more exclusive games than Gamecube, and once those games start coming out it'll be more clear.
Sony is "winning" right now, but the PS2 is aging fast compared to the competition and more and more households are going multiconsole. What happens when those households go multiconsole? They buy the games for the better console, the gamecube or the xbox, not the PS2.
I'm thinking of buying the GC not because of the franchises but because Nintendo knows how to make some games.Asher: I fail to see how you are able to complain about Nintendo's use of thier franchises when you are thinking of buying a GC because of them.
If Nintendo would not totally and completely rely on the Franchises they'd have a much better time, IMO."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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So basically, Xbox sales are good in America, Canada, England, and Australia, and suffers in continental Europe and Japan.
Coincidentally, those countries seem to have different tastes as well. After all, David Hasselhoff was wildly successful as a singer in continental Europe.
The problem with those markets that are suffering right now is merely the lack of games that they want to play. With some of the games coming soon, I can see surging sales in both regions. Just wait until Ninja Gaiden, Panzer Dragoon, Phantasy Star Online 2, Shenmue II, etc. come out in Japan -- guaranteed huge sales, those are big name games that Japan has always loved.
To be honest there's no incentive for Japanese gamers to buy an Xbox right now -- what would they play? The only "Japanese" style games on the system are Jet Set Radio Future, Gunvalkyrie, and Dead or Alive 3. I don't see why it's even selling about 2000 units a week with that type of selection
For continental Europe, I have no idea why sales are so "bad" there ("only" 500,000 Xboxes sold so far compared to 400,000 Gamecubes).
Australia especially seems to be eating Xbox up:
Figures from market research firm Inform show retailers sold 6997 Xbox consoles last week, compared with 3566 PlayStation 2 consoles.
Inform research manager Phil Burnham said the price drop had "definitely" paid off for Microsoft.
"It's exactly what they need," he said.
"They need to get more consoles out there to continue to secure their position in the market."
Mr Burnham said it was too early to tell if Microsoft would maintain sales over the long term.
A month's worth of data would give some indication, but he would not suggest what level of sales would be a good result.
"I'm sure Microsoft would be happy to see it selling a bit more than the PS2 at the end of the day," he said.
But he noted it was not really a "war" since some people would buy both consoles.
Mr Burnham said software was just as important as price in determining console sales.
"Once Microsoft get a few more triple-A titles out, we'll see a spike in sales," he said.
"When Gran Turismo 3 came out last year it had a dramatic effect on PS2 sales."
Microsoft presently has three of the top five software titles: Halo and Project Gotham Racing in first and second place and Dead or Alive 3 in fourth place. The PS2 games Grand Theft Auto 3 and Metal Gear Solid 2 took third and fifth place respectively."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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My thoughts exactly.Originally posted by CapTVK
As Glonk has no problems coming up with selective 'facts' (without a source) and throwing out statements or reports that don't coincide with his POV. . .
HAVE A DAY.
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His source was not the correct one, as it was published after my comment and is a different set of data.Originally posted by Cloud9
My thoughts exactly.
So if those are your thoughts exactly, perhaps you should rethink.
My source was Famitsu (the same source as his) but obviously using these most recent figures at the time. Showing me the most recent ones released yesterday means nothing about the original comment."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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It doesn't make a difference. It's still only 10,000, compared to more than 60,000!!!Originally posted by Asher
His source was not the correct one, as it was published after my comment and is a different set of data.
NO!So if those are your thoughts exactly, perhaps you should rethink.
HAVE A DAY.
<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17Comment
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Yeah, but 10,000 is staggering to me.Originally posted by Cloud9
It doesn't make a difference. It's still only 10,000, compared to more than 60,000!!!
It should be selling maybe 10-20.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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To you maybe. 60,000 is six times more staggering to me.Originally posted by Asher
Yeah, but 10,000 is staggering to me.
It should be selling maybe 10-20.
HAVE A DAY.
<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17Comment
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I wasn't comparing it to the PS2, I was saying 10,000 is staggering just for the Xbox considering the lack of titles to appeal to the Japanese audiences at the time.Originally posted by Cloud9
To you maybe. 60,000 is six times more staggering to me.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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IMHO, that is not very impressive.HAVE A DAY.
<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17Comment
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No kidding, huh?IMHO, that is not very impressive.
But in my opinion it should have been lower still.
Just found some hard numbers:
If Japan is the biggest market, how come it doesn't account for more sales than North America?But the biggest market, Japan, remains out of MS's reach
From Sony's Press Conference (Pre-E3), 8:57 into it this slide was shown for software shipments:
North America: 69.9M units
Europe/PAL: 42.8M units
Japan: 47.4M units
Also keep in mind that North America's gaming market is growing at a phenomenal pace still, while Japan's is relatively stagnant due to a poor economy and already high levels of market penetration with video games."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Still:
Xbox only does well in North America and some smaller markets, while the PS2 does well in all the three biggest markets.
It's obvious Sony is winning. There's no way others can overtake the PS2 now. And sure the Xbox may increase sales somewhat in Japan, it still won't overtake the PS2. Same for continental Europe, where the Xbox is doing really, really bad.Quod Me Nutrit Me DestruitComment
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Er. Don't you mean nothing can overtake the PlayStation? After all, that was such a big success and no-one would ever need a newer, better console...Originally posted by Saint Marcus
It's obvious Sony is winning. There's no way others can overtake the PS2 now. And sure the Xbox may increase sales somewhat in Japan, it still won't overtake the PS2. Same for continental Europe, where the Xbox is doing really, really bad..
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