USA vs Holland in Boston

[JohnIII]

I think that argument is pure BS. Going back to Slovenia or Ireland, each of which only have one star (Zahovic and Keane respectively) managed to eliminate the Netherlands, Romania, and Yugoslavia. Ecuador are going ahead of Colombia. It’s not just about how many superstars you have.

[Oligarf]

I always think that quality counts, why Van Gaal couldn't make it work, I don't know, but in theory, looking at the street value of those players on the pitch, the Netherlands should easily beat Ireland. So indeed, I am very eager to know how Van Gaal made this all possible, because I thought this to be almost impossible.

[JohnIII]

Have you watched no football over the past few years? How did Valencia and Deportivo finish above Real Madrid and Barcelona? How did Chievo do so well in Serie A? Lille in France? Leverkusen in Europe? Were those all unfair results, or was it that the teams refused to give in?

[Oligarf]

Leverkusen ruined it in the end. Part of their success might have been in the fact they played un-German. The Italian competition is so hard that I would say that every club there has chances to win or end high. The team Barcelona has isn't quite what it has been, I regard the team of Real Madrid far better, probably also in value. And didn't those guys win some European price...

[JohnIII]

Only because, by your own admission, Levekusen ruined it in the end. If Real Madrid are so great (they have the best players) how come they finished third in the league?

[Oligarf]

Because they had a very busy schedule? Maybe??? Winning some European Cup.

[JohnIII]

That makes no sense whatsoever. Several reasons:
1) Man United have won a treble before; the fixture 'congestion' can actually be beneficial to players, if they can handle the pressure.
2) A league is fought over a whole season. Valencia wrapped it up with a couple of weeks left.
3) If you have the best players, you should be able to overcome the loss of one or two of them due to injury/suspension/rotation. That is the whole point of having a strong squad.

[Oligarf]

Ok, who has the best squad in Europe than?

[Saint Marcus]

Ajax

[Oligarf]

Oh, so that's why we aren't at the WorldCup, because we have the best club of Europe.

[JohnIII]

Deportivo, probably.

[Oligarf]

Because...

[JohnIII]

Because they have two good players in every position.

[Saint Marcus]

Deportivo?

[Oligarf]

Truely?