Spiderman: The Saving Private Ryan Disease

[Arrian]

Tons of Hollywood movies go overboard on flag-waving. It bugs me sometimes, but in this particular case, though I haven't seen the movie yet, it makes a modicum of sense. Set in New York, released post-9/11... it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that putting in a shot of Spidey w/flag will sell in the US. And the movie was made to sell in the US. If that hurts sales in Greece (which it apparently didn't, at least in your case), it was probably still worth it. Americans like their flag, Mark. And most of 'em couldn't care less what you think of it.

-Arrian

[MarkG]

Americans like their flag, Mark

greek like their flag too. you wont see it in the end of greek movies though, nor will you see many "our country is great" greek movies

most of 'em couldn't care less what you think of it.

is that supposed to be an argument that could change my opinion?

[Rogan Josh]

It couldn't possibly be as annoying as The Patriot. I mean, how many US kids are going to grow up thinking that that sh!t really happened?

(Especially that scene where the British try and free Gibson's slaves only for them to turn around and say they are all free men and then fight to uphold the American dream... )

[Arrian]

Yeah, the Patriot was awful. Total crap - with the possible exception of the one scene where Gibson's character has to come clean about slaughtering a bunch of Frenchmen. I don't recall the slave freeing scene (didn't watch the whole thing, couldn't), but I'll take your word for it.

is that supposed to be an argument that could change my opinion?

Nope, it wasn't. It was a simple statement of fact, relating to the most likely purpose behind adding the flag scene - to sell the movie to Americans. And, in the immortal words of Forrest Gump, that's all I have to say about that.

-Arrian

[monolith94]

I went into Spider-Man bracing myself for the ending scene, but when it finally came around I was extremely underwhelmed. That flag was hardly overwhelming. I was expecting it to be Patton-esque, with spidy crouching and a huge flag waving behind him. Basically you guys are mad that spidey happened to be on a roof with a flag on it...

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by MarkG

Anyone remember one of the Superman movies where superman flys through the air with an american flag?

but that was 25 years ago!!

and i dont think the spiderman stories ever had anything to do with patriotism...

When American patriotism was at an all-time LOW.

[TCO]

Actually that's whats so funny. I don't even remember the flag! Mark is just being a little weener.

[axi]

Saw the movie yesterday. I definitely didn't want to, but my friends did, so I followed.

Well, this is one hell of a crap movie! The guy is a total ****er! The girl throws herself into his arms, saying "I don't love spiderman - I love Peter Parker" and the guys just stands there and says (to himself) "sorry, no can do, the way of the hero, responsibilities come with power, blah, blah..."

Hello?! What kind of lame excuse is that? How did Superman manage then? How could he have both his powers and the girl?

The way they made his best friend hate spiderman to make an excuse for a sequel is pretty lame too. Couldn't spiderman tell him sth like "It's the Green Goblin who killed your father, it happened like this:....." and devise some excuse?

Other lame spot, the moment the GG faces the wrath of the New Yorkers. Come on!

Plus the movie had all those sllllloooowwww dialogs which didn't fit well with the extremely fast action. Plus it lost all the humour it had at the beginning.

C R A P ola, I say!

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by axi


C R A P ola, I say!

But it still got your money.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Rogan Josh
It couldn't possibly be as annoying as The Patriot. I mean, how many US kids are going to grow up thinking that that sh!t really happened?

(Especially that scene where the British try and free Gibson's slaves only for them to turn around and say they are all free men and then fight to uphold the American dream... )

You know Rogan that free blacks did serve in the that war along with the War of 1812 and the Civil War. So roll your eyes a little harder

[Bereta_Eder]

i found a web site with greeks that fought on the side of the confederacy in the american civil war - pretty funny/interesting
but i lost it now

[MarkG]

not sure about it, but it also(?) went the other way paiktis

In a time that media didn't exist, simple persons could discern right from wrong. While European States supported Ottoman Empire under the status of Holly Alliance, simple European and American people as well as intelectuals (American Samuel Howe, British Lord Byron, Gaite, Victor Ugho, etc) supported the fight of hellenic people for liberation. 300 phillelenes (142 Germans, 42 Italians, 11 Swiss, 60 French, 3 Americans, 21 British, 11 Polish, 10 Scandinavians, 17 Dutch etc) are estimated to have been killed

http://members.fortunecity.com/fstav1/1821/pictures.html

[Rogan Josh]

Originally posted by Sprayber
You know Rogan that free blacks did serve in the that war along with the War of 1812 and the Civil War. So roll your eyes a little harder

Is that hard enough?

[Bereta_Eder]

MarkG, yeah but there were also greeks on the other side of the american civil war. maybe they are a bit better documented.

[Sava]

Yeah, I heard there were Greeks on Yamamoto's staff when Pearl Harbor happened.