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  • #46
    Bush at it again, more protectionism
    Marcus at it again, more "America sucks" threads.

    That being said, I happen to favor free trade, so I think this latest round of protectionism is a bad idea. The last thing we need is a trade war between the US and EU - the type of thing that triggered the Great Depression.

    On the other hand, for a European to be complaining about agricultural protectionism without mentioning the EU's policies is a bit disingenuous, don't you think Marcus?

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    • #47
      On the other hand, for a European to be complaining about agricultural protectionism without mentioning the EU's policies is a bit disingenuous, don't you think Marcus?
      A. I don't agree with the EU subsidies for agriproducts either.
      B. Everyone already knows the EU is subsidising this, while this move is new.
      C. Bush claims to promote free trade. French socialists who favor the agri-subsidies do not claim to promote free trade.
      D. This is the second big protectionist move of Bush in a matter of months.

      Need more reasons?
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Saint Marcus


        A. I don't agree with the EU subsidies for agriproducts either.
        B. Everyone already knows the EU is subsidising this, while this move is new.
        C. Bush claims to promote free trade. French socialists who favor the agri-subsidies do not claim to promote free trade.
        D. This is the second big protectionist move of Bush in a matter of months.

        Need more reasons?

        Is Holland and the rest of the EU as protectionist as France?
        Regarding agriculture, of course.
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        • #49
          Is Holland and the rest of the EU as protectionist as France?
          Regarding agriculture, of course.
          No. we want to reform the current subsidies, though others (mainly France) refuse.

          We pay more than we get sadly
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          • #50
            Originally posted by DanS
            "Eh? I don't think I understand your latter remark."

            The agrochemical companies (most of whom are Euro), are counting on a good portion of these subsidies flowing right into their pockets.
            But the farmers get something in return, right?
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Saint Marcus


              A. I don't agree with the EU subsidies for agriproducts either.
              B. Everyone already knows the EU is subsidising this, while this move is new.
              C. Bush claims to promote free trade. French socialists who favor the agri-subsidies do not claim to promote free trade.
              D. This is the second big protectionist move of Bush in a matter of months.

              Need more reasons?
              Actually, the addition of (A) in your original post would have done wonders. It would have made your little tirade a balanced objection to protectionism. That's what I was after - an acknowledgement that Europe (yeah, specifically the ever-cooperative french) plays this stupid game too. That's all.

              C. is a good point. I don't appreciate hypocrisy either.
              D. agreed. Both bad moves.

              -Arrian
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              • #52
                Re: Bush at it again, more protectionism

                Originally posted by Saint Marcus

                IS Bush really right wing? He's acting as a French socialist.
                Okay, let's exchange our presidents ! We give you chirac and we take Bush Jr. Okay ?
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                • #53
                  Okay, let's exchange our presidents ! We give you chirac and we take Bush Jr. Okay ?
                  I don't know who's worse...
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                  • #54
                    Hm tough call. But Im all for it. Would be funny to confront Bush with the French Public
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                    • #55
                      But even more funny would it be to confront Jacques aved the American one.

                      Mind you, I'd like to see the looks on their faces when he calls them EU citizens.

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                      • #56
                        IS Bush really right wing? He's acting as a French socialist.
                        Can't you differenciate socialism and nationalism?
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                        • #57
                          I knew only members of an intellectual elite would get that remark.

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                          • #58
                            Re: Re: Bush at it again, more protectionism

                            Originally posted by ZoboZeWarrior


                            Okay, let's exchange our presidents ! We give you chirac and we take Bush Jr. Okay ?
                            Better not, Le Pen would have won the elections then I"m afraid

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                            • #59
                              Can't you differenciate socialism and nationalism?
                              not when it comes to Bushonomics.
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Saint Marcus
                                D. This is the second big protectionist move of Bush in a matter of months
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