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  • #91
    A suicide bomber exploded near the Megido Junction. It was probably a "work accident", one man was injured.
    "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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    • #92


      Another foolish crime done by a Palestinian Terrorist. This time was Hamas, wasn't it?

      It's awfull. My respect to those who died and my condolences to those who now suffer the loss of closed friends and loved ones.

      Eli:
      You mention that Gaza was not afected by Operation Defense Wall. In your opinion, what prevented this act from happening sooner?

      I always get the feeling that Hamas as a particular inclination to stage some terract when the process get's a little calmer and especially when we begin to see some pressure being made on the Israelli Government position. This group is certainly bound to provoke a Israel-Arab war. One thing his certain, though. If Hamas reaches this purpose EU will surelly join the right side. In this case, Israel!

      It is time to have a serious atack on Hamas, starting from the Palestinian Authority itself. (Sadly, I don't believe it will ever happen).

      It is especially when these acts happen that I miss the presence of an International Peace Force. They would now have the mandate to emprison all Hamas militants (and duly react to whatever violent resistence they would find), and no Palestinian would have nothing to say about it.

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      • #93
        Morb:
        Actually the U.S. has Told the Pals to stop attacking the Israelis, but at the same time is refusing to try to back this demand up and is refusing to let the Israelis do it either. Making demands that you can't support is worse than nothing.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Ecowiz Returns
          Eli:
          You mention that Gaza was not afected by Operation Defense Wall. In your opinion, what prevented this act from happening sooner?
          What act? Yesterday's teract, or the invasion to Gaza?
          "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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          • #95
            The terrorist near Megido Junction is alive and doesnt allow the police robot to blow up the explosive belt. Remember this next time someone publishes pictures about "execution" of captured terrorists.
            "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
              The idiotic violence of the suicide bombers is destroying any hope the Pals have for an independent state and may well destroy the Pals. Those "brave martyrs" are the worst enemies the Palestinian people have...
              That's exactly the point.

              While the terracts continue, it is always defensible to call for a military response.

              A full stop on terracts, from the Palestinian would be enough, in my opinion, to end all this charade and show that all that the current Israelli Government wants is to revoke the Oslo Agreement and continue the settlements. It would then be easier for the Israelli people to vote on someone who really intends to reach Peace.

              However, I don't believe there is any way a Peace driven Palestinian Authority can, on the next dew years, directly confront extremist groups like Hamas that have their own agenda, because they have enough popular support to destroy the Palestinian Authority from within.

              On the other hand, Israelli military response only strenghtens the extremist position among the Palestinians.

              That's why I defend an International Peace Force, legitimized by both Israel and the Palestinian Authority. When this force atacks extremist groups, it will be with the accordance of the Palestinian Authority and in the name of Peace, and not in the name of retribution. The support from the Palestinian side is, surelly, bound to be bigger than that obtained now by Israel, which is, basicly, none.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Eli
                What act? Yesterday's teract, or the invasion to Gaza?
                Yesterday's terract.
                What i'm asking is your opinion on why a terract, from an area which was not affected by Operation Defense Wall, only happened when some pressure was taken from that same operation? How can the connection be made?

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                • #98
                  The deputy to the security minister confirmed the terrorist came from Gaza.

                  Originally posted by Ecowiz Returns
                  Yesterday's terract.
                  What i'm asking is your opinion on why a terract, from an area which was not affected by Operation Defense Wall, only happened when some pressure was taken from that same operation? How can the connection be made?
                  The terrorists in Judea&Samaria were busy with fighting, dying and running so they couldnt continue with the terror in the same scale before the operation. One action near Hebron was "succesfull" though.
                  Also, Israel seized mountains of documents and arrested hundreds of terrorists. All this information allows us to keep hunting for terrorists even though Defensive Shield is over. Most of the time we get info like "Mr. Muhhamad hides in village X", or "there is an explosives lab in street 5 in Tul Karem" so we make a quick few hours long entry. So this limits the posibilities of the terrorists even now.

                  This creates a lot of motivation for the Gazans, who werent damaged, to help. Every night, there are at least 2 people trying to pass the Gaza fence. Most of them get killed or arrested, but as we saw yesterday, at least one had managed to pass.

                  The optimistic part, is that if the only teract they can make comes from Gaza, with all the dificulties to leave the area, then the situation in Judea&Samaria must be very hard for them.
                  "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                    They'd probably back the Pals, actually .
                    This is why they are great musicians and not and not great statesmen.
                    He's got the Midas touch.
                    But he touched it too much!
                    Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!

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                    • ecowiz, you actualy do touch on a good point there. an international presence would be able to imprison hamas militants, and would be a boon to the region.

                      You might also not that Arafat has called for international forces since the day the conflict started...

                      However, an international force would force Israel to give up the intentional provocations, as well as give up the land they have occupied.

                      Consequently, ISRAEL is opposing international forces...


                      Drake, you might want to read through this thread again. I think you are even confusing your own points...
                      Gnu Ex Machina - the Gnu in the Machine

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                      • ecowiz, forgot one thing: you do realize that Hamas and the PA are politcal rivals, right? going after the PA only STRENGTHENS the Hamas...
                        Gnu Ex Machina - the Gnu in the Machine

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                        • Originally posted by CyberGnu
                          ecowiz, you actualy do touch on a good point there. an international presence would be able to imprison hamas militants, and would be a boon to the region.
                          Israel was fighting for a week in the Jenin refugee camp with helicopters, tanks and infantry to arrest(and kill those who resist) Hamas and Islamic Jihad members, losing 23 men. Do you think that a couple EU cops will do the job better?
                          "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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                          • Yep. Maybe they'll only manage to arrest 20 hamas, hey, for the sake of argument, let's say they only manages to arrest 1! while arresting that one person, they won't spawn ten new would-be suicide bombers, the way the israeli atrocities do...
                            Gnu Ex Machina - the Gnu in the Machine

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                            • Originally posted by CyberGnu
                              Yep. Maybe they'll only manage to arrest 20 hamas, hey, for the sake of argument, let's say they only manages to arrest 1! while arresting that one person, they won't spawn ten new would-be suicide bombers, the way the israeli atrocities do...
                              Yeah, but the 50 that will survive will blow up tommorow. And the exlosives labs that will be left untouched will be manufacturing bombs for 10 years.
                              "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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                              • So you'd rather have ten next week than one today? And I thought jews were famous for taking a long view on things...

                                besides, explosives lab schmexploives lab. Anyone can set up an explosives lab in their garage. Removing one is a temporary setback. Seriously, how hard do you think it is to mix fertilizer with diesel fuel?
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