Why was the USS Liberty where it was?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Felch X
In this case the most plausible situation is exactly the same that likely happened in the American bombing of our Canadian allies - somebody was scared of enemy combatants, and acted irrationally and killed friendly people.

Are you telling me that we attacked Canadian positions for over two hours after subjecting them to numerous recon flights in clear daylight with a coordinated air and land assault?

[Felch]

Well, no. But the accidental nature of the attacks seems similar. Frankly I don't know or care about the facts of the case. I was just trying to get a rise out of Floyd. I trust the Israelis wouldn't knowingly attack the only people out there who support them. It just seems preposterous.

[Jaakko]

Originally posted by GP


2 Sturgeon class boats. 1 class older than the 688.

Did you ever sail under the arctic ice? I've suddenly got a kick ass Cthulhu/sci-fi RPG adventure idea...

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Felch X
Well, no. But the accidental nature of the attacks seems similar.

Out of interest, How many friendly fire incidents last for over two hours?

[TCO]

Originally posted by Jaakko



Did you ever sail under the arctic ice? I've suddenly got a kick ass Cthulhu/sci-fi RPG adventure idea...

I can't say where we went. that sort of thing is classified. The Sturgeon class has special features to make it capable of going under ice (better than LA actually), but tjhey did lots of missions that were not under ice as well as some that were under ice.

[Ecthy]

You're not allowed to talk about what you did in army? Strange, you must have been on many spy missions

[Jaakko]

You have betrayed the proletariat, tovarich Jaakko! I hope you will be useful in the coal mines of Siberia, because the time you wasted gathering information from the supposedly drunken Amerikanski certainly wasn't!

Well darn, I was so hoping for good sea stories...

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Felch X
Well, no. But the accidental nature of the attacks seems similar. Frankly I don't know or care about the facts of the case. I was just trying to get a rise out of Floyd. I trust the Israelis wouldn't knowingly attack the only people out there who support them. It just seems preposterous.

Why not? They got away with it...

And for the second time, speaking as a Canadian, the difference is readily apparent. If US forces had done to us what the Israelis did to you then I would have considered it a notification that we weren't friends any more and that it was time to withdraw from our military alliance.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Ecthelion
You're not allowed to talk about what you did in army? Strange, you must have been on many spy missions

A sub, by it's very nature, is always on covert operations, whether they are spy missions or not.

[joseph1944]

Originally posted by Jaakko
This doesn't look like a ship easily confused with others, especially with those big-ass letters on the bow...

As Jaakko said how can you miss the big number and letter that are located on the side of every single surface ship in the U S Navy. We do not need a flag. I was US Navy. Your little country did a number on us that day and we let it go.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by joseph1944
As Jaakko said how can you miss the big number and letter that are located on the side of every single surface ship in the U S Navy. We do not need a flag. I was US Navy. Your little country did a number on us that day and we let it go.

If anybody actually looks at the picture they can see the flag on the middle mast.

[SpencerH]

Its not the Yuri Gagarin, but you cant miss the satellite dish. Its not impossible that it was a mistake, but its damn unlikely.

[joseph1944]

Originally posted by GP
Siro,

Are you seriously stating that you think the attack was justified? The ship was in international waters, passively collecting ELINT. YOu are not justified in attacking US ships in this situation. (Beleive me...I saw a Russian AGI (Balzac) every time I left San Diego. It sat right at the 12 mile line...)

If you think the attack was justified, surely a cover up wouldn't bother your conscience much...

Hey my last big ops in Feb of 65 off of Silver Strands a Russian AGI came into where we were anchor and took lot of pictures. He pass so close to my Ship we could see their faces.

[David Floyd]

Warning: If you go to a warzone, do not ***** and moan when people accidentally shoot you.

Really? And how did international waters off of Egypt/Israel become a warzone, especially in a war where neither side had a navy worth speaking of?

[Coracle]

Why was the USS Liberty attacked??

As an intelligence ship it could pick up Israeli war plans for attacking Syria on the Golan Heights.

The Israelis had already beaten Egypt and Jordan and did NOT want international and U.S. pressure to force them to stop before they grabbed off the Golan.

So, their jets repeatedly attacked a clearly marked U.S. ship, and then Israeli warships attacked it murdering many Americans.

Such is what Zionism represents.

Check out the truth:

http://home.cfl.rr.com/gidusko/liberty/

http://www.ussliberty.org/