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Originally posted by The Mad Monk
Being paid for services rendered makes you inferior?
They feel they get paid a respectable income through their hourly rate, whatever it is. So tips aren't built in to their remuneration expectations like they are in the United States. Do they tip in Canada?
With tradespeople the quote they give is what they consider a fair price. You accept that, you don't pay any more for a good job or any less for a bad job. The price is the price.
Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
'They' most certainly tip in Canada. The thing here is that the servers are not paid anywhere near trades wages. Try minimum wage. They work damn hard in a busy place and they earn every spare dollar that people throw their way.
As I said earlier. Many young people are paying their way through university on tips.
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Yeah well hourly rates for waiting and such are pretty high here, certainly not minimum. By law they get penalty rates too - time and a half for evenings, Saturdays, double time for Sundays, that sort of thing.
Its different in different countries.
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Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
I tip when I'm abroad but I always find it hard to work out what is tippable and how much is appropriate. Its a real nightmare.
Bill X .15 = tip
or Bill X .2 = tip if you're nice
real nightmare there
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I think tipping is a silly idea. There seems to be quite a vicious tipping culture in the US and if you don't tip, consider your nation to be up their with Iraq for the next invasion I just find it awkward, I like to know how much the meal costs and pay that amount, not be expected to fork out some undisclosed sum which more often than not, I cannot afford.
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the other thing i'd like to take issue with is the wages of service staff, how is it incumbant on me as a customer to ensure that the employees of a restaurant get a decent wage?
i do not feel obligated to help someone through university, they have parents/grants/jobs/my tax/ to do that.
First you have the bill, then you have to add some percentage (dependent on whatever state you're in!) to get to the total because for some moronic reason they can't figure out how to include tax into the bill in the US...
Then you HAVE to tip them between 15-20%, otherwise they come chasing after you because their basic wage is an insult to an ordinary human being...
Pay your staff a decent wage! I too was a waiter etc about 10 yrs ago in NZ - my basic wage was so good I only had to do a 30 hr week if I wanted to and still have a great time!
Stop paying people slave wages and denigrate their efforts by making them chase your monetary scraps!
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