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  • #31
    People - lets keep our eyes on the ball. A little girl is dead. Lets give due justice to the tragedy of the event, no?
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Urban Ranger

      Exactly. What's the legal basis for that?
      The legal basis for it is quite simply that the war never ended in a peace treaty, only a cease fire. ie: It never ended period.
      Last edited by ravagon; April 29, 2002, 01:24.

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      • #33
        Yes, it's tragic - I'm just making the point that we shouldn't attacks the Pals without looking at Israel's misdeeds.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by orange
          People - lets keep our eyes on the ball. A little girl is dead. Lets give due justice to the tragedy of the event, no?
          What would you have us do then? Wait for Imran or CyberGnu to come in and give a philosohical justification for why the girl deserved to die?
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Urban Ranger


            Exactly. What's the legal basis for that?
            What's the legal basis for aggressive war? The Israelis payed for that land with blood, and deserve to keep it. There are numerous precedents for their occupation, but the one that sticks in my mind right now is the land that the U.S.S.R. grabbed after WW2. The Soviets were attacked, successfully fought off the Nazis, and pushed back with an offensive of their own. They kept the land conquered during that offensive (either directly or through satellite states).
            "The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is to have with them as little political connection as possible... It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world, so far as we are now at liberty to do it." George Washington- September 19, 1796

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            • #36
              Originally posted by David Floyd
              Yes, it's tragic - I'm just making the point that we shouldn't attacks the Pals without looking at Israel's misdeeds.
              I agree with you on this, and I disagree with the post Lonestar made, but I can't ignore the fact that no one (that i've seen) has even acknowledge the fact that a little girl is dead for no reason.
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              • #37
                No, but we should attack terrorism and accept no justifications for it.
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                • #38
                  Dino, the girl didn't deserve to die, but it is not the fault of the palestinians. It is the fault of the parents. They were the ones who decided to bring a five year old into the settlement.

                  If I put my kid in the middle of the highway, who do you think is to blame: the motorist who killed her, or me who put her there?
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                  • #39
                    orange, I don't agree with your assessment of no reason. It wasn't like it was a freak accident... It was a direct consequence of the actions of her parent settlers. If they hand't decided to commit a crime, she would still be alive.
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                    • #40
                      The motorist who swerved across 4 lanes to hit your daugther.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by CyberGnu
                        Dino, the girl didn't deserve to die, but it is not the fault of the palestinians. It is the fault of the parents.


                        I've heard some idiotic stuff out of you before, but this takes the cake. The girl's death is the fault of the Palestinian ******* who shot her, not her parents. Your justification of murder sickens me...
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by nationalist
                          What's the legal basis for aggressive war? The Israelis payed for that land with blood, and deserve to keep it.
                          You failed to answer my question. What is the legal basis for it?

                          Originally posted by nationalist
                          The Soviets were attacked, successfully fought off the Nazis, and pushed back with an offensive of their own. They kept the land conquered during that offensive (either directly or through satellite states).
                          USSR didn't occupy any of the captured territory per se. Even if they did, it would be like saying, since people kept slaves before, it would be fine for you to keep slaves.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Urban Ranger


                            You failed to answer my question. What is the legal basis for it?
                            Probably the same basis that led to the occupation of Germany and Japan for many years after WWII.

                            I believe it's called right of conquest, but I'm not a lawyer.
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                            • #44
                              notyou, good answer, but not quite apt.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by ravagon
                                The legal basis for it is quite simply that the war never ended in a peace treaty, only a cease fire. ie: It never ended period.
                                Isn't that a might makes right argument? Suppose Iraq invades Kuwait, then never officially end the war, they are allowed to keep what they can take?
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