Latest Exploit of the Heroic Palestinians.

[Eli]

In Hebron, IDF soldiers killed one of the gunmen who conducted the murders in Adora.

[DaShi]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


So, are the Germans contesting this? Is there a conflict between the two countries? Are Russians actively building settlements while the Germans protesting against these? Are the Russians treating the Germans like second class citizens?

Oops, I was proven wrong and can't properly defend myself.

Quick! Look over there!!!

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by DaShi
Oops, I was proven wrong and can't properly defend myself.

Quick! Look over there!!!

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[Ned]

CyberGnu, We all might consider how Wilson's new ideas about "self-determination" of peoples factored into the equation. I believe the Jewish goal of statehood began after WWI, IIRC.

This doctrine seems peculiarly American. We somewhat lived by it when we revolted from England. We did not when we put down the rebellion of the South.

But, CyberGnu, you have to remember that the land in question was governed by Turkey for 400+ years prior to 1917. After the War, the Brits and French divided up the conquered territories. The Arabs got most. They thought they were going to get lower Syria, but the Brits kept that and called it Palestine. Later, just as you said, when the final disposition took place, the UN, divided the "mandate," i.e., the territories liberated from Turkey, between the Jews and the local Arabs according to population.

Ned

[DaShi]

Originally posted by DinoDoc


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actually, I haven't looked in this thread yet.

[Ecowiz Returns]

Re: Latest Exploit of the Heroic Palestinians.

Having read many of the posts, I like to remember the sad loss of an infant's life, throught the acts of criminals that deserve to be taken, judged and condemned. Most of all, I would like to hear, from muslim religious leaders, but especially from the Palestinian Authority that those who commit such crimes are not martires but criminals and are bound to stand condemned by Men and by Allah.
I would like to hear them remember that even the Koran oposes the killing of children. As such, not even a fundamentalist biggot may find confort in his biased understanding of the will of the God he claims to worship.

Originally posted by Lonestar


Five year old Danielle Shefi, apperently a legitimate target for the brave Palestinian fighters.

Danielle Shefi was never a legitimate target, and her grieving parents are, now, among the victims of the insanity that seems not to weaken in that land.

To Gnu: under your reasoning, it would be accepted to kill the children of any soldier, or otherwize to blame him/her for fighting. Is that what you mean?

Originally posted by Lonestar
I hope, hope, hope, Bush get's off Sharon's case and lets him do what needs doing.

This is the kind of over-reaction that serves noone but the warmongers themselves.

As many pointed out, by now, no side has any moral high ground.
A balanced position must be critical to both sides and must continuously propose the possibility of settlement, even when there is no imediate hope of compromise.
I, for one, have great hope on the UN's latest proposals.

The only thing Sharon needs to do is stop creating even more obstacles to a Peace process. The more Bush preasures him to
do this, the better.

[Ned]

Ecowiz, Who are going to arrest the murderers of Danielle Shefi other than the IDF? Ned

[Imran Siddiqui]

A nation created from a British mandate due to an edict of the UN is not legal?

No, it isn't legal because of the edict to take effect both sides had to agree. It was a non-binding edict, therefore, the Arabs living there did not have to accept it. And since they didn't, the state of Israel was formed through non-legal means.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
And since they didn't, the state of Israel was formed through non-legal means.

Since when do you care about international law?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Since when do you care about international law?

Well, since my opponents in argument is bringing it up . Smack him down with that he is backing.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Well, since my opponents in argument is bringing it up . Smack him down with that he is backing.

Yes, but it opens your side up to legalistic attacks as well. It would be better to simply say that you don't care international law as it relates to this conflict because it allows you to avoid the Geneva Conventions prohibitions against the purposeful murder of civilians.

[TCO]

Originally posted by David Floyd


I think you'd take exception to some foreign settlers plopping down fortified settlements on your land, too. Besides, I'm quite sure the Israelis have killed kids before.

Would you also kill girls like this, David?

[TCO]

Re: Question

Originally posted by Jules
What is the "USS Liberty Incident?" Thanks.

Check out this site. http://www.ussliberty.org/

My father, a career naval officer who served in the Med thought the attack was deliberate (because of how it happened in terms of tactical details.) He was not a conspiracy theorist.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by GP
Would you also kill girls like this, David?

He's a brave warrior, GP.

[Ned]

GP and Imran, I notice both of you have been members since 1969. How is this possible? Ned