Am I a anti-semitist?

[Eli]

Originally posted by Kropotkin
Ok, besides the attack on my unfortunate spelling i don't get a dencent answer...

What's wrong with mine?

[Kropotkin]

That was decent I supose but since you've seen a lot of my posts I didn't get your perception of me. (that was kind of the point)

[Provost Harrison]

Of course you're an antisemite, just like me. We're European after all

[HisMajestyBOB]

If you've ever critisized Israel, Jews, people who might be Jews, people who support Israel, people who might know someone who is Jewish, or are European or Arab then you are an Anti-Semite.

[Sirotnikov]

Hey eurocommies, relax

Kropo, no you're not.

UI is crying wolf about being called antisemite even thoug I haven't seen anyone calling him that.

To my knowledge he hasn't hurt Jews around him.

He does however deny the Jewish right for homeland and self defense usually, but I don't think that's enough to be called an anti-semite.

The problem is that the eurocommies automatically side with the underdogs. And commies are just plain silly in my view.

It's also no suprise that they like the pals the most, since the palestinian leaders were all best friends with USSR and learnt the best propoganda tricks from them.

HMBob, no.

[Ecthy]

Can someone explain to me the matter between Israel and Uganda?

[Goingonit]

There were Jews living in Israel prior to Zionism.

Israel is the biblical homeland of the Jews.

[Provost Harrison]

Biblical is a damn long time ago.

[Goingonit]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Biblical is a damn long time ago.

The point is not that we used to live there, but that there is a special significance to the land that is not shared by Uganda.

[laurentius]

I couldnt really care less if some self-righteous, self centered israelis are having their black lists

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by Goingonit

The conflict was fed by CERTAIN Jews. Noam Chomsky, for example, is a Jew but did not feed the conflict. If you group him with Ariel Sharon purely by virtue of race, that's anti-semitism.

I think thats a fair definition.

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by Goingonit
The point is not that we used to live there, but that there is a special significance to the land that is not shared by Uganda.

Uganda?

[Ecthy]

Yes, what the hell is the matter between Israel and Uganda????

[Chris 62]

No Kro, your not, but you often take such a postion, intentionally or not.

Most people aern't, I use it (the statement that people are anti-semtic) as a wake-up call.

Far to many peole look on Israel as an evil place, and say the Jews should get the f*ck out, despite the fact that it is where they came from, and that they have been persecuted EVERYWHERE else (even in the USA) they have tried to live.

Any fair minded person need only look at the facts and see who is in the wrong, and it isn't the Jews, they want to make deals and live in peace, but for numerious reasons (politics, religious hatereds, ect) they are constantly attacked and harrassed, and when they fight back, are called facist and other less then flattering things.

The real problem I often see with Europeans is they see Islamic violence as explainable and justified, but when Israel responds they are "murderes and nazis', a truly sickening double standard.

Read any history of Israel, and you see a continous pattern, arab states lauch attacks (conventiobnal or commando), the UN does nothing, Israel responds, and the UN imposes "cease-fires" and threats.

This happened in 48, 56, 67, and 73.
When Israel is losing, from the UN, silence, when Israel is winning, threats and cease-fires forced on it.

The PLO was born in 65 as a political animal, it had NOTHING to do with displaced peoples, it was formed as a poltical plank to use aginst the Jews.
Anyone can look all of this up, it's clearly documented.

One of the more disturbing things seen is the violence against Jewish peoples and places in Europe, instaed of outrage from European posters, I see comments about how it's "blown out of proportion", or "no big deal".

Ask your selves if this would be the case if it was Jews blowing up mosques in Europe and desicrating Islamic cemitaries, as well as beating Muslims in the streets of Europe, would it be blown off the way it is with the inverse?

I used to try to reason with people here, based on fact and logic, but after dealing with it for some time, you see that intelligent argument is useless with many of them, only bombastic statements make any impression.

A good example was the fool the other day that tried to claim that the USA was a massivily racist state against arabs, and that is the route cause of ME problems!

How can you speak rationally to such an idiot?

The Jews deserve and fought for their homeland, and they are keeping it.

The Palestinians also deserve their own homeland, but not on Israel's bones, and not through excessive violence and hatered.
If they want to be a nation, they need to behave like civilized people and stop suicide bombings, terrorism, race hatered, stop cheering when inocents are slaughtered, ect.

Believe me, if they did that and Israel STILL moved troops into their cities, the USA would NOT stand for it.
We do, as a people, because we see what is going on, not the silly propaganda that is often spewwed, quite often from a leftist side, but also rightest. (In the USA, right wing conservatives DO NOT favor Israel)

Hatred and violence will get the Pals nothing but more misery, but if they change their ways, they can have almost all the things they desire, a homeland all their own, and the right to live freely.

[Goingonit]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison




Uganda?

The idea was that there was going ot be a Jewish state in Uganda.

However, it was not so, for reasons explained above.