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  • #76
    Originally posted by Spiffor
    The positions in the parliament currently reflect the elections of 5 years ago, so it'll change next elections (in June).
    Currently, the Social democrats are very strong, but need a coalition with the Communists (39 representatives IIRC) and the Greens (8 representatives I think) to have an absolute majority at the parliament.
    As the CP collapsed, the socialists lost voices, and the green didn't progress either, it's possible that the next parliament will be very different. It's not impossible we'll have a right-left coalition.

    But isnt that because CP and Socialist votes were cast for thes Trotskyites?? Are the Trotskyites really running full slates across France? Those votes have to go somewhere.

    LOTM
    "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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    • #77
      Some of these votes will go to the regular left at the second round of the elections (it's quite natural to see leftist candidates at the first round). But some won't because these parties refuse politics as it's being done, and claim they're the only true left, because other left parties gave up to capitalism. I think many leftists will refuse to vote at the second round of the parliament election.
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      • #78
        Originally posted by Spiffor
        I think many leftists will refuse to vote at the second round of the parliament election.
        I was expecting somesort of leftist revenge at the parlimentary election. Are you saying that it is still possible that Chirac's party could still get a majority of parliment after the debacle the left had over Le Pen?
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        • #79
          Originally posted by ZoboZeWarrior:
          (National Sozialistisches Demokratisches Partei)
          NSDAP = Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei
          = (1934) Nachbar, suchst Dir auch'n Posten?
          = (1944) Nur solange die Arschlöcher parieren

          They never claimed to be democratic.
          (The other explanations mean: Neighbour, also looking for a post? and Only as long as the a**holes obey).

          I never thought that Le Pen would so openly cite Hitler.

          Originally posted by LoneStar:
          So, if LePen wins... does this mean Britain gets to invade and "Take back" Calais?
          There you open a very interesting question: I'm not absolutely firm in the happenings around the hundred year's war. But wasn't it that William the conquerer, being a French duke, conquered England, and he and his successors were thus a) a French duke (and as such subject to the King) and at the same time b) independent Kings of England? And the 100 year's war was a civil war between the French king and one of his dukes? Thus the Queen can claim back her fiefs, but beforehand it is necessary to install a French King (Which TheStylo cannot be due to a lack of noble blood ). But maybe she could try to be to be French and British Queen because the French successfully disposed of the Bourbons? We Germans still have sufficient of "von Hannover"s left to help out, if you lack of personnel.
          Why doing it the easy way if it is possible to do it complicated?

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          • #80
            DinoDoc :
            I know you're from AECCP but try to understand there is a difference between leftists and the left-winged :
            - the leftists want a revolution for the sake of collectivism
            - the left-winged want to moderate capitalism so that it doesn't creat too much inequality and misery.

            I don't know if you think "pah ! all commies !" after reading this, but I insure you there is a true difference between the left-winged, and the leftists. Many leftists don't forgive the left-winged for having accepted capitalim. And so, many of them simply won't vote at the second round, when they'll only have choice between left-winged, right-winged and far right (leftist candidates have almost never enough voices to make it to the second round : a candidate must have more than 10% to maintain himself at the second round).

            So much for the leftists. A more general thing now : it's almost sure our president is going to be right-winged (at least I hope it won't be Le Pen). And we just came out of a period of "cohabitation" (a right-winged president and a left-winged government) that many people don't want anymore. I suspect many undecided people will vote to the right, in order to get rid of the cohabitaiton. Don't know if this will be enough. But a sure thing is that nothing is sure in French election
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            "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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