Tension between Canada and the U.S.?

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Of course KH, you are right that there are people who are reacting emotionally to the loss. However, I don't see nay greater level of Anti-Americanism than is normal. Do you think the crowd at a hockey game was reacting to Afganistan?

Not particularly, but anti-Americanism was, IMO, given a good boost by the accident. People in general seem to be pissed off with what they see as a cavalier disregard for the lives of US allies. Whether or not it's justified, it couldn't come at a worse time for those who want to rope us into a closer relationship with the US.

[notyoueither]

I'm not pissed off at the USofA. Nobody I am in daily contact with has said anything about it (except you). The people who are making public statements about the entire USofA are the same ones who would blame America for just about anything else that went wrong. There are a fair number of those people in Canada.

[Tingkai]

And the proposed US trade barriers against Canadian softwood lumber is bound to be pissing people off in BC.

[notyoueither]

That I'm pissed about. But more pissed at the limp-wristed reaction to it on the part of the Governement of Canada.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by notyoueither
I'm not pissed off at the USofA. Nobody I am in daily contact with has said anything about it (except you). The people who are making public statements about the entire USofA are the same ones who would blame America for just about anything else that went wrong. There are a fair number of those people in Canada.

Yeah, imagine the nerve of blaming the US for killing four Canadian soldiers.

[notyoueither]

You're going to blame an entire nation for the mistakes of an individual?

[Asher]

He's socialist.

The individual is the nation.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither
I'm not pissed off at the USofA. Nobody I am in daily contact with has said anything about it (except you). The people who are making public statements about the entire USofA are the same ones who would blame America for just about anything else that went wrong. There are a fair number of those people in Canada.

No disrespect or anything, but you come from USA junior, thus you may have difficulty seeing the difference between "We love the US" and "We really like the US". Your speculation that the ones making the most vitriolic anti-US statements are the same ones who already had a tendency to dislike the elephant down South is probably justified, but it's a frivolous point.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by notyoueither
You're going to blame an entire nation for the mistakes of an individual?

Nah, just the US military.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Asher
He's socialist.

The individual is the nation.

?

[Asher]

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
No disrespect or anything, but you come from USA junior, thus you may have difficulty seeing the difference between "We love the US" and "We really like the US". Your speculation that the ones making the most vitriolic anti-US statements are the same ones who already had a tendency to dislike the elephant down South is probably justified, but it's a frivolous point.

No offence taken. However, 'Is tension growing between Canada and the U.S.?' was the original question. So I fail to see how my statement that the voices of protest are mostly the same who would protest anything else is frivolous.

I don't see tensions growing, that's all.

[devilmunchkin]

maybe it's just basketball fans from detroit??
i love canadians! and their bacon. [joke]

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by notyoueither
So I fail to see how my statement that the voices of protest are mostly the same who would protest anything else is frivolous.

But how do you know that to be true? Most members of the Canadian Forces treat the American military as friends and allies, but at the moment, my bet is a lot of them are complaining about the low level of training within the US military (yes, that's a gross overstatement, but that's what they would be saying).

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither
So I fail to see how my statement that the voices of protest are mostly the same who would protest anything else is frivolous

I said that the most extreme line would come from the already anti-US crowd, not that the only people angry were those. You can't dismiss the shift in viewpoint by claiming that anyone who's angry now is just looking for an excuse.