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  • #31
    I didn't even see PM in the theater, so I doubt I'll see the Clones. However reading about it they say that near the end of it, it starts turning into a darker movie. We can only hope that includes the "removal" of Jar-Jar Stinks.

    Oh, I also knew my marriage was over when my ex-wife actually was LAUGHING at Jar-Jar.
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    • #32
      Lonestar, Warlord of the Geeks checking in.

      I intend to see it. Along with Spider-Man.

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      • #33
        I will go see it. Probably a matinee on a Tuesday two to four weeks after release.

        Phantom Menace deflated any excitment I have had for the Star Wars story, and I had a lot!

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        • #34
          http://www.enixine.co.uk/episode1ispants.html for a few (badly HTMLed) points against Ep1.

          As for Ep2, I think George Lucas mentioned something about the cheesy name "Attack of the Clones" being intentional. Apparently, he wanted to remind people about the crap 70s and 60s sci fi films that had no plot, execrable acting, and special effects that age badly.

          I hate to say this, but such a film already exists, and it's called Episode I.
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          • #35
            I hate to say this, but such a film already exists, and it's called Episode I.


            And IV, V, VI .

            Seriously, why do people think the first trilogy was filled with amazing movies?

            They were fun, no plot, special effects films
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            • #36
              Seriously, why do people think the first trilogy was filled with amazing movies?
              I would agree except for Empire Strikes Back. That seemed to be a darker more adult movie than the others, along with a considerable expansion of the Stars Wars universe.

              I wont see this if Lucas makes another digital puppet show for 12 year olds. The series, as derivative as it is, still deserves better than Episode I.


              Dave
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              • #37
                I would agree except for Empire Strikes Back. That seemed to be a darker more adult movie than the others, along with a considerable expansion of the Stars Wars universe.


                Ok, I'd take that as an exception. The dark parts were very nice, and made for a very good cliffhanger.

                But, ROTJ is nothing more than a kids sci-fi movie .
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                • #38
                  The little eight year old in me who remembers Star Wars with awe drug me to Episode I. When I got there, Lucas used the opportunity to stomp the snot out of that little eight year old with Jar Jar's big flat feet.

                  I'll see the clone thingy when it comes out on DVD.
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                  • #39
                    I actually am not that impressed with A New Hope, and Return of the Jedi does have its annoying points (but also some crucial answers and finality).

                    But The Empire Strikes Back is most definately a good, awe inspiring sci-fi film.

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                    • #40
                      Actually, a movie about the Clone Wars might just be interesting. I read the story in some SW books and it sounds like it could make an entertaining movie.

                      Speaking of Star Wars, has anyone played Jedi Knight II? It looks interesting but I have never played a FPS game before. Would you recomend the game to a newbie?


                      Not sure, but JK 1 didn't entertain me much. If you want some really good FPS, try System Shock 2, Thief 1 and 2, and Deus Ex. Besides Deus Ex, they are all old games, so you should be able to get them cheap too.
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                      • #41
                        I have JK2.

                        Played through 4 levels and some multiplayer thus far. Its... Ok.

                        I am not that inspired by it. The graphics are.. fine. Its based on the Quake3 engine, which is overdue to be put out of its gib.

                        Also- unless you have at least 256mb of RAM, and an otherwise decent computer (P3/4 1Ghz or equivalent, etc...), expect some skippy gameplay due to the large levels (which aren't really THAT large; but appreciably large).

                        The puzzles are somewhat fun, and not too hard.

                        The one thing that is kinda kewl is the classic way Stormtroopers flop and fly around after being killed: straight from the movies!


                        I give it an 8 (marginally) out of 10. I guess its just too much like the original JK, and so many other FPS games out there.

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                        • #42
                          Simplicity really is best when it comes to the Star Wars universe. In PM, they got so wrapped up in all that they could do with computers and such that they forgot about any kind of story. RTJ just plain insuilted the intellegence of the audience.


                          Things to make it Star Wars again

                          less reliance on Computer effects and more time on story

                          stop trying to sell the damn toys.

                          Keep well know actors out of the movie. (with the exception of Sam L Jackson. He seemed ok.)

                          accept the fact that you just can't beat a shot of Darth Vader stepping down from a shuttle craft of scaring the **** out of his officers. Darth Maul could have been cool. But he didn't quite cut it in the badass department next to Darth Vader. And hell, Vader could hardly move.
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                          • #43
                            Well, Attack of Clones is supposed to be the prequals' ESB. It is supposed to be happy in the beginning, and then get dragged into the Clone Wars, and then Anakin's turning.

                            Of course the 3rd one is going to be amazing. One of the first movies where just about all the good guys die (and Sam Jackson admitted it on Conan O'Brien... every good Jedi except Ewen McGregor's Obi Wan, and Yoda die).
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                              It does seem funny, time has made it seem that Star Wars is a cinematic masterpiece, when it is, is brainless entertainment. PM fit into that. Yes, it was a bit more childish than the others, but not horribly so.


                              Damn, that was funny! An influential movie? Yes, by all means. A cinematic masterpiece?

                              (Reading your later words makes me think you meant the above sarcastically. If so, pardon my density. But still... "cinematic masterpiece"! )

                              I too thought it sucked how the LOTR people unleashed their voting bots on poor ol' IMDB to vote it the third greatest film of all time. I think that perhaps IMDB should not allow votes for any film until it is a year old.

                              Am I going to go see it? Of course - it is Star Wars after all. Am I looking forward to it? Not really.

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                              • #45
                                Reading your later words makes me think you meant the above sarcastically. If so, pardon my density.


                                Your density is pardoned .
                                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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