Are the Japanese truly insane?

[HisMajestyBOB]

Apparantly you have the Japanese to blame for the link in my sig.

[Seeker]

"Mr Ozawa, known for his hawkish views, emphasised that his remarks were aimed at encouraging China to speed up its transition to democracy, and to build a closer relationship with Japan."

LOL recalls previous Japanese attempts to 'encourage' a 'friendly government' in China...


BTW, I may be in Tokyo next year...what trains are these schoolgirls on?

[Ethelred]

Originally posted by ixnay37


How much anime have you actually watched?

Too much. ANY is too much. It causes brain rot so you will be deieved into tolerating low frame rates you would never accept in a game.

I would say that hardly any is as bad as you describe it.

Yes some flip between two or three cells at 10 frames a second while scolling a background till the next slide comes up. Lip animation on fixed figures does not count as frames.

I will give them this much though. None are as badly animated as Clutch Cargo. They superimposed real lips instead of animating them. REALY weird looking.

J. Ward's Rocky and Bullwinkle had some realy low frame rates too but there were funny.

[Wraith]

--"I mean, this is the culture that brought us Nasubi, Yatta!,"

Don't forget Domo-kun and wasabi flavored gummi fish.

--"From our Western perspective, are the Japanese truly nuts?"

Just different. It's not like Westerners aren't nuts themselves. I mean we've got our Sumo fetish, only we put pads on them and run them in groups and call it football (or go with less pads and call it rugby). We make cartoons about singing teapots and so on.

Edit: Almost forgot this one:
Winnie the Pooh Worships Satan (this is a link directly to the .mov file).

--"4 frames per second is NOT animation. Its a slide show."

Someone's been watching Violinist of Hamelin, I see. Try something recent like Cowboy Bebop.

Wraith
"She's an unremarkable woman... who's dazzling, dangerous, and utterly untouchable. Just an ordinary woman..."
-- Faye Valentine ("Cowboy Bebop")

[Skanky Burns]

Originally posted by DanS
Some of that stuff is truly disturbing to my eyes, even though I know it's a stylization. And there is a lot of it. Why can't they just have some good, clean porn?

They do.

Some (apparently many) want more than that though.

[Urban Ranger]

DanS,

Japanese movie industry has been rotting. Now the two things they are good at are anime and porn (regular and extra strength).

[devilmunchkin]

no they arn't
they're very logical and real *hint hint*
and vey exotic!!! yummmmmmyyyyy!!!

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Japan has just as much right to maintain an army as any other nation on Earth.

I have never maintained that Japan has no right in having an armed force. This appears to be a strawman.

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
As for Japan having the second highest defense budget in the world, IIRC Japan has always limited its defense budget to 1% of its GDP. When you have the second largest economy on Earth, however, 1% is a lot of money.

I hate to break this to you, but they have been spending more than that 1% for years now.

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Despite this, I don't think anyone who is knowledgable on the subject would claim that Japan is remilitarizing or planning to abandon its peacetime constitution.

I hate to break this to you, but they are actually planning to amend the constitution to remove restrictions placed on the military.

While the Defense Force is not supposed to be deployed outside of Japan, the current government is ignoring that restiction too.

So tell me, how does your Appeal to Authority work?

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Japan has a capable and high tech force, but it is built specifically for defensive purposes (hence the name "Self Defense Forces").

It do not have carriers, yet, but it can still project power to neighbouring countries.

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Japan has the money and technology to build a world class offensive force, but they haven't done so yet and have expressed no plans to do so.

No plans? Then why are they thinking of screwing around with the constitution now that they have been violating the provisions left and right?

[Drake Tungsten]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
I hate to break this to you, but they have been spending more than that 1% for years now.

Well, the CIA World Factbook seems to agree with me. According to it, Japan spent .96% of its GDP on military expenditures in 2001. Correct me if I'm wrong, but .96% is less than 1%...

I hate to break this to you, but they are actually planning to amend the constitution to remove restrictions placed on the military.

While the Defense Force is not supposed to be deployed outside of Japan, the current government is ignoring that restiction too.

To the best of my knowledge, the only proposed changes to the constitution have involved the participation of Japanese forces in international peacekeeping missions. In this capacity, the Japanese have served in Cambodia, Mozambique, and Rwanda as part of UN forces. Pretty scary, isn't it?

The Self Defense Forces have also sent some ships to help the US in its war on terrorism, but these ships are being used in a support role, not in combat. You could technically claim that this is a violation of the Japanese constitution, but I don't think that these types of deployments violate the constitution's pacifistic spirit.

It do not have carriers, yet, but it can still project power to neighbouring countries.

Sure they do...

Japan would be hard pressed to project its power to South Korea, which is right next door. It is impossible for Japan to project any meaningful military power towards China, its biggest potential rival. Japan's military force only extends as far as the range of its air force which, lacking carriers, isn't very far.

No plans? Then why are they thinking of screwing around with the constitution now that they have been violating the provisions left and right?

Show me some evidence for these plans and maybe I'll revise my views. Until then, I'll treat all this fear of a resurgent Japanese military for what it is: baseless conjecture and paranoia.

This appears to be a strawman.

So tell me, how does your Appeal to Authority work?

High school debating techniques don't help your argument as much as some actual facts would...

edit: Forgot about Japanese peacekeeping missions in Mozambique and Rwanda.

[MrWhereItsAt]

Originally posted by Ethelred

J. Ward's Rocky and Bullwinkle had some realy low frame rates too but there were funny.

Rocky and Bullwinkle? What's that?

What has frame rate got to do with anything anyway? If the frame rate is low, blame your TV.

And please name these poor series so I can avoid them. I have seen only ten so far and they've been fine.

[Dis]

I do think lack of sex does cause perversion. Hey that's the only way I can explain my perverted ways

But what I don't understand is why they have so little sex. They have less sex than any other nation. But that is an easy situation to remedy. Have more sex!!!

All the Japanese need is a good lay. I may fly there this year to provide that for some women.

[MrWhereItsAt]

Well thank God for Dissident! Maybe that will make the Japanese coming overseas a little more, "friendly" for the rest of us.

[Dis]

while I'm here, what's the deal with anime? why is it so popular when it looks so stupid?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Well, the CIA World Factbook seems to agree with me. According to it, Japan spent .96% of its GDP on military expenditures in 2001. Correct me if I'm wrong, but .96% is less than 1%...

That's nice, except that you forgot to mention that's just an estimate

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
To the best of my knowledge, the only proposed changes to the constitution have involved the participation of Japanese forces in international peacekeeping missions.

That's because you don't know enough.

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
In this capacity, the Japanese have served in Cambodia, Mozambique, and Rwanda as part of UN forces. Pretty scary, isn't it?

Considering that any breach of the constitution is still a breach, yes.

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
The Self Defense Forces have also sent some ships to help the US in its war on terrorism, but these ships are being used in a support role, not in combat.

Hardly defending itself, eh?

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
You could technically claim that this is a violation of the Japanese constitution, but I don't think that these types of deployments violate the constitution's pacifistic spirit.

Supporting attacks against other countries by deploying to areas outside of Japan? You call that pacifistic? You certainly has an interesting definition of pacifism.

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Sure they do...

Japan would be hard pressed to project its power to South Korea, which is right next door. It is impossible for Japan to project any meaningful military power towards China, its biggest potential rival. Japan's military force only extends as far as the range of its air force which, lacking carriers, isn't very far.

You have completely forgotten about their threats of building thousands of nuclear missiles? Besides, they certainly have tankers.

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Show me some evidence for these plans and maybe I'll revise my views.

That's fine, you can keep your view all you want. But check this a, this, and this.

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Until then, I'll treat all this fear of a resurgent Japanese military for what it is: baseless conjecture and paranoia.

Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean it's "baseless conjecture and paranoia". Considering that many Japanese, esp rightwing politicans, show absolutely no remorse for their deeds in WWII, there is every right for the neighbouring countries to be concerned.

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
High school debating techniques don't help your argument as much as some actual facts would...

If you have facts you wouldn't resort to fallacies. Now show me those facts of yours.

[MrWhereItsAt]

What's the deal with anime?


It's not Disney. And that's a good thing.