Siro goes to to pre-military training

[notyoueither]

I'm not flaming DF.

I'm just curious. If the US Constitution provides freedom from the draft, how come the US uses the draft when circumstances warrant it?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Sprayber
You let money interfer with your principles

Lazy, blood sucking non-libertarian hypocrite!

[David Floyd]

You let money interfer with your principles

No I didn't. All I did was sign up for something I have no intention of ever honoring, because if I didn't, I would have been prevented from seeking an education or receiving need or academic based financial aid.
I have no problem lying or misrepresenting myself to an immoral government.

[David Floyd]

I'm just curious. If the US Constitution provides freedom from the draft, how come the US uses the draft when circumstances warrant it?

Because, clearly, the US doesn't generally follow the Constitutuin anymore. I thought that was a given.

[Ramo]

Well, fuc*ed boy, I don't see why something has to violate a right, for it to be wrong.

[David Floyd]

Well, drunk boy , saying something is "wrong" implies morality. If something is morally wrong, that implies that said action violates some "moral rightness". What, besides natural rights, could that refer to?

[Ramo]

My personal morality, ****ed boy.

[TCO]

Originally posted by David Floyd
Come to think of it, I might even take more drastic measures, which may or may not include assassination and blowing stuff up. Yes, I feel THAT strongly about it.

Oh....gosh you're such a badass! I bet even your little sister is afraid of you. Stick to dream world, little boy.

[David Floyd]

Well that's a rather weak argument for arguing that something is wrong - maybe it's against your morality to kill people, but not mine. Who is right?

Lay off the beer, dude - I saw you chugging it last night

[notyoueither]

Is this the Saturday night drunk thread?

Eeehah. Let me order some beer.

[David Floyd]

Oh....gosh you're such a badass! I bet even your little sister is afraid of you. Stick to dream world, little boy.

See, I'd just LOVE to take on a DI who thinks he can force me in the military. Anytime.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by David Floyd


No I didn't. All I did was sign up for something I have no intention of ever honoring, because if I didn't, I would have been prevented from seeking an education or receiving need or academic based financial aid.
I have no problem lying or misrepresenting myself to an immoral government.

Surely you don't think the government owes you financial aid?

Exactly what admendment is that located in?

[Ramo]

David, I consider coercion immoral. I don't need magical natural rights to exist to hold that morality. You don't like it, too bad.

[David Floyd]

Surely you don't think the government owes you financial aid?

Certainly not. But SS has nothing to do with it - making it an issue is frankly bull****.

In any case, all of my current financial aid comes from non-federal sources, so let's not start.

Ramo,

I consider coercion immoral. You don't like it, too bad.

So do I, but wouldn't you agree that that position is more easily supported from a position that doesn't involves relative morality?

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by David Floyd


See, I'd just LOVE to take on a DI who thinks he can force me in the military. Anytime.

Actually they wouldn't try to put you in the military. They would simply put you in another institution. You could of course resist. Then they would simply apply more force. If you used deadly force then I'm sure they would respond in kind. Then the whole world goes about it's business like it never happened. It might become a TV movie though. I guess that would be something.