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  • #46
    Originally posted by Boddington's
    Ming? Families are not allowed to be brough on to Apolyton issues....I got a two week ban for doing so.

    I'd like some consistency.
    So now you can make cracks about parents but no one else can?

    You're such a baby, Boddington. So very femme...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/he...000/1916462.stm

    They should be imprisoned.
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    • #47
      Enough of this crap... The next person that uses a personal insult against a member of this site is toast.

      It's that simple.
      Post about the subject, and leave your insults somewhere else!
      Keep on Civin'
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Ming
        Enough of this crap... The next person that uses a personal insult against a member of this site is toast.

        It's that simple.
        Post about the subject, and leave your insults somewhere else!
        Don't worry, Ming.

        I created a separate dumpster thread on Off-Topic for people to get this bulls**t out of their system.
        A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by MrFun


          So you're making a generalization about liberals based on stereotypes?

          I'm a moderate liberal, the extreme liberalism of places like Berkley scare me.

          As for deliberately having deaf babies -- I do not see that as something that should be supported, regardless of sexual orientation.

          Boddington is implying that everything that goes wrong with conceiving children, or adoption is the fault of only homosexual couples, and not heterosexual couples.

          His ignorant, and unfair, distorted claims are getting old.
          Before you get your knickers in a twist MrOffended, I didnt say all liberals, I said "dewy-eyed" liberals. Not all liberals are like that.

          I agree that the title of this thread is a bit silly. I am glad you dont think its right to intentionally have a deaf child.
          ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
          ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Ming
            Let's chill people...

            And Boddy... didn't you start a thread about a heterosexual couple that refused to give their child an operation to correct deafness... So this is just another bad troll...
            That was me.

            ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
            ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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            • #51
              Anyone notice the thread title? "Why Homosexual Couples Shouldn't Have Children (or, Only In America) ".

              Can you picture the scene? He's frantically pondering "Troll gays or americans? Troll gays or americans? Oh sod it, I'll do both.".

              Yet it's actually a "designer baby"/eugenics issue....
              The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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              • #52
                Spot on Bugs.

                While I disagree intensely with a couple selecting a baby with what many see as a disability, I also disagree with the title of this thread. The issue of designer babies and where we draw the line between acceptable and unacceptable applies not only to homosexuals but to everyone, and to give it such a slant directed solely at the homosexual community is unacceptable. It's one example picked out from an ocean just because it happens to be associated with a minority group.

                So to sum up, sure it's despicable and abhorrent, but their sexuality makes no difference to the issue.
                "Love the earth and sun and animals, despise riches, give alms to every one that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others, hate tyrants, argue not concerning God, have patience and indulgence toward the people, take off your hat to nothing known or unknown . . . reexamine all you have been told at school or church or in any book, dismiss whatever insults your own soul, and your very flesh shall be a great poem and have the richest fluency" - Walt Whitman

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                • #53
                  Any child "born" to a homosexual couple will always be a designer child - they have to choose some genes of the opposite sex unnaturally.

                  If you are against designer children, then you are against homosexuals having children.

                  Therefore the thread title is accurate.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Boddington's
                    Any child "born" to a homosexual couple will always be a designer child - they have to choose some genes of the opposite sex unnaturally.

                    If you are against designer children, then you are against homosexuals having children.

                    Therefore the thread title is accurate.
                    I would have thought mentioning something about the disability would have been more relevant to this topic.
                    ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                    ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Boddington's
                      Any child "born" to a homosexual couple will always be a designer child - they have to choose some genes of the opposite sex unnaturally.

                      If you are against designer children, then you are against homosexuals having children.

                      Therefore the thread title is accurate.
                      Nu-uh. Don't agree with this one at all. I disagree with selecting an attribute which gives the child a disability or similar. However, the system at the moment of going to a sperm bank and selecting genetic material from a large number of donors is still pretty random - it doesn't ensure that the couple get the designer baby that they want. True, they can pick sperm from a donor that they like the sound of, but it's not the same as forcing a disability on a child.
                      "Love the earth and sun and animals, despise riches, give alms to every one that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others, hate tyrants, argue not concerning God, have patience and indulgence toward the people, take off your hat to nothing known or unknown . . . reexamine all you have been told at school or church or in any book, dismiss whatever insults your own soul, and your very flesh shall be a great poem and have the richest fluency" - Walt Whitman

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Boddington's
                        Any child "born" to a homosexual couple will always be a designer child - they have to choose some genes of the opposite sex unnaturally.

                        If you are against designer children, then you are against homosexuals having children.

                        Therefore the thread title is accurate.
                        So what about Melissa Etheridge and David Crosby? Is it merely the presence of the turkey baster that makes the child a "designer child"?

                        Or Oscar Wilde? Did the fact that he would have been far happier entertaining rent boys make his children "designer children"?
                        The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by -=Vagrant=-


                          First, as I explained above I don't see deafness as a disability.
                          What do you see it as? A "culture"?

                          If you think thats all it is then why dont you expand your cultural horizons by puncturing your eardrums?
                          ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                          ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Boddington's
                            Any child "born" to a homosexual couple will always be a designer child - they have to choose some genes of the opposite sex unnaturally.

                            If you are against designer children, then you are against homosexuals having children.

                            Therefore the thread title is accurate.
                            Here are some of my opinions on this:

                            1) Genetic manipulation in fetuses is acceptable, when you are deliberately creating towards a healthy baby, not to deliberately create a baby with a disability or illness.

                            2) Couples of all three sexual orientations have done genetic manipulation on fetuses -- not just homosexuals.

                            3) The alternative methods in conceiving children, along with adoption, allow homosexual couples to contribute to the perpetuation of the human species.

                            I'm amazed -- I found nothing overtly offensive in this quote from Boddington.

                            (I still disagree with this quote of his though)
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                            • #59
                              2/10
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                              • #60
                                Yeah, I find it ethically most questionable to produce a deaf child. Why would any parent want to burden their child, and subsequent generations with such a disadvantage. Most bizarre.

                                But I fail to see the relevence of their sexuality. It has no bearing in this argument whatsoever.

                                Methinks Stew is on the troll again, but then again, is the Pope Catholic?
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