Explain to me all this Quebec thing.

[KrazyHorse]

It's a flat tax, and IIRC you can opt out (if you want the nightmare of having to pay for things yourself).

[Asher]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
You also get basically free university and a better social safety net.

I'm on scholarship anyway. And it's hardly free, it's not much cheaper than a State University, actually. It's a Canadian myth about how cheap our post secondary education is. It's true, but not to the extent everyone wants you to believe.

You get a government that actually cares about you (yes, even about Albertans)

So much so they spent public money on an Anti-Bill 11 smear campaign, spreading misinformation. How kind of them to care so deeply for me. They cared so much for me they don't want to pay for my dental insurance, but they're more than happy to cover the cost for my cyst removal, only you'll have to live for a year with it pinching your nerves and making your hand ache while writing. Small price to pay for a free service, though...

better funding for the arts

Yeah, like that wonderfully horrible movie "Men with Brooms".

and an opportunity for everybody to do something with their lives, irrespective of their backgrounds.

America is not the land of opportunity, but rather Canada is. Gotcha.

[notyoueither]

Sorry about the BC reference. Mostly included it as a sop to those in central Canada that I was not picking on them exclusively.

Although, my conversations with my sister-in-laws brother about my abducting my nephew to do brain washing on him to the evil ways of capitalism in Alberta may have had an influence.

I do not jest. My nephew from BC came back with me last summer to work here because he could not get a summer job in BC. His other uncle almost had a stroke at the idea of losing the lad to the evil empire. He told me about his misgivings in loud and livid detail.

[RedFred]

Originally posted by techumseh
Why do you say that? I know it's hard to believe, but - THERE ARE NO HEALTH CARE PREMIUMS IN 8 OF 10 CANADIAN PROVINCES. None. At all. Really. Honest.

Additional revenue for health care is received by various provinces in various ways. BC and Alberta have user pay premiums. When I lived in Ontario they had a health care tax on corporations instead.

[KrazyHorse]

Canadian myth about how cheap our post secondary education is. It's true, but not to the extent everyone wants you to believe

Come to Quebec. Tuition <2000$ per annum

*thinks about differential tuition fees*

Wait, you might not want to. They'd charge you twice as much because they're evil bastards.

[Asher]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Come to Quebec. Tuition <2000$ per annum

McGill has the highest tuition in the country, IIRC. Waterloo was 2nd.

Tuition here is $2500CDN/term.

[KrazyHorse]

McGill has the highest tuition in the country, IIRC. Waterloo was 2nd
Tuition here is $2500CDN/term

That's a lie, Asher. Acadia's highest in the country, and I know what I paid. $1000CDN/term.

[RedFred]

Originally posted by notyoueither
His other uncle almost had a stroke at the idea of losing the lad to the evil empire.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Asher

Actually, I do speak for Alberta. Incase you forgot, Alberta elected Reform/Alliance people entirely. Not liberals.

Tug, tug, tug.

BTW. Anne McClellen was returned in my riding. I once voted for her in the vain hopes that having a cabinet minister would help. I thought the people of Quebec might be onto something with their strategic voting. Didn't do too much good. Although the army base in Calgary was closed and the PPCLI moved to Edmonton.

Sorry to dissapoint you overlord. I await your determination of my disposal.

[Asher]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
That's a lie, Asher. Acadia's highest in the country, and I know what I paid. $1000CDN/term.

Ah, it's not the highest, but it's not $1000CDN/term according to its website.

http://www.education.mcgill.ca/distance/fees.htm

Quebec has frozen University tuition.
I give it 10 years before a McGill degree is worth the same as a community college diploma with that.

The average tuition in Ontario is $4000/year. http://canadaonline.about.com/librar.../aa091201a.htm

[KrazyHorse]

I remember my bills. Just over 1000 with all fees included. 1100-1150 for 15 credits. I already explained that they charge other canadian students twice as much.

[Asher]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Tug, tug, tug.

BTW. Anne McClellen was returned in my riding. I once voted for her in the vain hopes that having a cabinet minister would help. I thought the people of Quebec might be onto something with their strategic voting. Didn't do too much good. Although the army base in Calgary was closed and the PPCLI moved to Edmonton.

Sorry to dissapoint you overlord. I await your determination of my disposal.

Dianne Ablonscy(sp?) is in my riding.
She's a sexy *****. I wanna lay her so bad.

[KrazyHorse]

Quebec has frozen University tuition.
I give it 10 years before a McGill degree is worth the same as a community college diploma with that

The tuitions have been frozen since 1993, IIRC, and McGill was just placed 2nd in the country for fundraising. We get more than our share of private donations. Annoyed because the Quebeckies can do something right?

The program I was in was considered the top physics degree in Canada by grad schools, by the way.

[Asher]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
The tuitions have been frozen since 1993, IIRC, and McGill was just placed 2nd in the country for fundraising. We get more than our share of private donations. Annoyed because the Quebeckies can do something right?

Freezing tuition is not right. It's stupid. You'll see that in about a decade.

The program I was in was considered the top physics degree in Canada by grad schools, by the way.

Grad studies are entirely different than undergrad, since much of that is funded through other means than tuition.

[techumseh]

[QUOTE] Originally posted by Asher

Actually, I do speak for Alberta.

Even the most rabid right winger in Alberta may take exception to this breathtaking presumption.

Incase you forgot, Alberta elected Reform/Alliance people entirely. Not liberals.

Not entirely. And that was before Stockwell Day. Next time we'll see. (and I could give a sh*t about the Liberals BTW)

No, it's not due to Ralph Klein. The problem is nationwide, not in Alberta. It's due to the federal government, which is liberal at the moment. Coincidence?

I'll conceed the point. But per capita health care spending in Alberta has yet to return to pre-Klein levels.

Yes.In Canada, I pay twice the income tax though to get "free" health care. More than I'd pay for insurance. That's a big price for something free, isn't it?

Nonsense. You do not pay twice the income tax that an American does. Hell, I bet you don't pay income tax at all!

Because they also have much higher technology. Compare hospitals in the US to those in Canada, there's a visible difference.

More nonsense. The US has twice the per capita cost because it's a profit based system. Hundreds of giant health care corporations, each with thousands of shareholders to be satisfied, does not equal efficency and economy.

Two tier health care? Tier one: "Nurse, we'll have to order more tests. And our patient will need another prescription. No generics, though."

Tier two: "I'm sorry Mr. Johnson, I have bad news. You have what we call "no insurance."

Yes, that's right. Actually, he physically assaulted a child in poverty and an elderly man in order to get his cyst out right away. Good thing he's much stronger than they were!

C'mon, I'll bet he's not that bad.