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  • Originally posted by MrFun


    I did not realize there were so many issues in a country where caribous and polar bears outnumber the human population.
    There's not that many issues.

    Here's the main issue:
    Alberta is very conservative, the rest of the country is very liberal. That's what everything boils down to. But don't forget -- It's Quebec that's the distinct society. They speak French!
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    • Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Explain to me all this Quebec thing.

      This last bit I'll leave
      Originally posted by Tingkai
      The fact is: NO ONE FORCES YOU TO BE A GRAIN FARMER. If you don't like growing grain then do something else. We don't owe you a living.
      I normally want to avoid ardent flaming, but in your case...

      How ignorant can you be buddy?

      You must be dumber than a sack of hammers. Try to follow the bouncing ball... The farmers don't want the CWB in good times or bad. Got that? Understand? They don't like being slaves. Hard to comprehend? Maybe for you.

      If you think that farmers will never need help, and therefore should never get it, that's fine. Except that you go way beyond that and hold up the CWB as a help to farmers.

      Well clusterf*ck. Get this. How much help is an agency that is not funded by the government? Do you actually have a clue as to what the CWB does?

      I didn't think so. So for you ignorant b*tt h*mps, I'll spell it slowly and use small words. Get this. They force the farmers to sell the wheat to them. They sell the wheat to foreign and domestic markets. They keep a large fee for their adminstration (sorry if that had too many syllables). They distribute the remaining funds to the growers. You bet, Jonnie. The CWB is sure a way for the farmers to get money from the governement. Your ignorance is beyond comprehention.

      Well Jack, you do not even have a clue as to why the CWB was formed in the first place do you? No, you couldn't buy a clue if Alex was selling them at a discount.

      The CWB was formed because grain merchants were preying on the isolation of farmers. During the depth of the depression they would deflate the price paid to farmers. Then because of the drought they would inflate the price sold to the mills. Pretty simple, eh?

      Do you think such conditions are likely to happen again? Are you that inbred?

      Tell you what. I think you are the big bang of stupid. If you were a singularity of stupid all the other singularities would circle your magnificance in a universe of stupidity.

      Have I made myself clear? If you have any questions I will make myself available.
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      • Originally posted by MrFun


        I did not realize there were so many issues in a country where caribous and polar bears outnumber the human population.

        And KrazyHorse -- get rid of that ugly red blot in your avatar, and bring back that cute kitten.
        You are an evil man MrFun. Don't tell me you didn't know where this would go. If you do, I will send a special Caribou squad to make sure you have no more fun.

        D*mn, I've lost most of an evening for Civ3 to this, this, this....

        Man I'm steamed. I'll get you

        But, yes, KH. How is that you sold off a national asset to a non-believer? Your inquisitors want to know.
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        • Notyoueither: Nice try, but you obviously don't know anything about the CWB, and if you took the time to think before you write, you'd realize that you are wrong.

          The CWB buys up grain during times of surplus bumper crops and pays above market prices. When the harvest is small and prices shoot up, the CWB sells off it supplies, while buying up crops at market prices (which are depressed by the CWB sell off).

          The problem for farmers is not the CWB. It's the massive subsidies given to American and European farmers which allows inefficient farms to operate at lower costs and floods the market with grain.

          I'm surprised a farm boy like you can't understand these basic economic facts.

          But then again, western farmers are none to bright. They haven't made money for years, there is little hope of making money in the immediate future cause of the American and European subsidies, so what do these guys do: they keep on growing wheat and dig themselves further into debt.
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          • Originally posted by Tingkai
            The CWB buys up grain during times of surplus bumper crops and pays above market prices. When the harvest is small and prices shoot up, the CWB sells off it supplies, while buying up crops at market prices (which are depressed by the CWB sell off).
            That's an extremely simplifed explanation, and in its simplication it lost some of its accuracy.

            It's like me saying World War II was caused by a dispute.
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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            • Originally posted by Asher

              That's an extremely simplifed explanation, and in its simplication it lost some of its accuracy.

              It's like me saying World War II was caused by a dispute.
              True, but sometimes you have to keep it simple.

              We all know the CWB isn't perfect and like anything it can be improved, but I'm tired of all these wheat farmers (and their descendents) blaming everyone else for their bad business decisions.
              Golfing since 67

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              • Originally posted by notyoueither


                You are an evil man MrFun. Don't tell me you didn't know where this would go. If you do, I will send a special Caribou squad to make sure you have no more fun.

                D*mn, I've lost most of an evening for Civ3 to this, this, this....

                Man I'm steamed. I'll get you

                But, yes, KH. How is that you sold off a national asset to a non-believer? Your inquisitors want to know.


                You have no idea of my diabolical plans, my dear, innocent lad.

                And besides -- the United States attracted tons more immigrants in its history than Canada ever did. That makes us more virtuous -- so what if we put them on starvation wages in the 19th century and early 20th century??
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                • MrFun: I think one of the reasons for that is Canada is pretty picky with immigration policies.
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                  Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                  • Originally posted by Tingkai
                    Notyoueither: Nice try, but you obviously don't know anything about the CWB, and if you took the time to think before you write, you'd realize that you are wrong.

                    The CWB buys up grain during times of surplus bumper crops and pays above market prices. When the harvest is small and prices shoot up, the CWB sells off it supplies, while buying up crops at market prices (which are depressed by the CWB sell off).

                    The problem for farmers is not the CWB. It's the massive subsidies given to American and European farmers which allows inefficient farms to operate at lower costs and floods the market with grain.

                    I'm surprised a farm boy like you can't understand these basic economic facts.

                    But then again, western farmers are none to bright. They haven't made money for years, there is little hope of making money in the immediate future cause of the American and European subsidies, so what do these guys do: they keep on growing wheat and dig themselves further into debt.


                    You're late in your rotational spin.

                    Don't know anything about the CWB. Nice troll! I admit, you got me.

                    However...

                    Do you seriously think the CWB has the storage facilities to save even a fraction of the bounty of the prairies? Man, buy a clue! Alex is giving them away today.

                    The CWB never pays anything it does not itself get from selling the f*cking wheat you, you, you...

                    Well, I guess you'll be happy when Westerners turn the whole sh*taroo into strip mines to get at the minerals. After all, by your own fevored reasoning, they shouldn't be trying to feed people in the first place.

                    I retract my comments about you being the singularity of stupid. There are no possible physics to describe the level of stupid you have obtained.

                    You are transcendantly stupid. As such, I will have to leave your case to ecclesastical authorities for a determination.
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                    • Quote from Asher:

                      I understand how warm and fuzzy it can make you feel to think all humans are created equal, but the harsh reality is it's not true. That's why some people have billions of dollars and most people don't.

                      It's survival of the fittest.

                      Ashur:

                      It's not just what your born with with, but what you choose to be.

                      And it's not just what your given, but what you do with what you got.

                      Please explain how Abe Lincon went from poverity to US President without the advantage of wealth.

                      In fact ALL people ARE crerated equal, they just don't all achive equally.
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                      • Originally posted by Promethus
                        It's not just what your born with with, but what you choose to be.

                        And it's not just what your given, but what you do with what you got.

                        Please explain how Abe Lincon went from poverity to US President without the advantage of wealth.

                        In fact ALL people ARE crerated equal, they just don't all achive equally.
                        Ahhh, I was waiting for people to start with that.

                        Let me clarify things first of all:
                        I don't think any race, or sex, or anything like that is superior for anything than another.

                        All I'm saying is certain people are more apt for modern urban living than others, and those people tend to become well off even if they're poor. Others are more apt for other things (maybe even manual labor?), and they're unfortunately in a position where they can't make it in today's society up very far. Others may be geniuses but they're never born with the drive and ambition that can get them out of a "poor rut". That's particularly unfortunate.

                        Now, I'm not saying inherited wealth doesn't matter. It sure as hell does. People who come from a wealthy background have a headstart, but that doesn't mean people who aren't as lucky can't finish the same race.

                        I believe it's entirely possible to move up the social class ladder in modern society, and I've seen this first hand, but it takes special people to do that. Not everyone can do it. It IS easier for a "not so special person" to hold onto wealth when they're born with it, but there's nothing we can do about that.

                        And I honestly don't believe all people are created equally in the sense of possible achievement. Of course, all human lives are extremely valuable and should be counted valuable as such, but when it comes to salaries and jobs, not everyone's created equal. Some people just aren't cut out for lots of the white-collar jobs.
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                        • Ashur:

                          Just where do you think you would be today if your country did not provide public education? Would your father have been able to attend university? Would You? Do you think that this does not give you advantages over people in other countries that offer this privilige? If you were born poor in the "Third Word" would you be posting here?
                          The ways of Man are passing strange, he buys his freedom and he counts his change.
                          Then he lets the wind his days arrange and he calls the tide his master.

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                          • Originally posted by Promethus
                            Just where do you think you would be today if your country did not provide public education? Would your father have been able to attend university? Would You? Do you think that this does not give you advantages over people in other countries that offer this privilige? If you were born poor in the "Third Word" would you be posting here?
                            My tired drunken mind is scrambling to connect public education in third world countries to my comments on being apt for white collar jobs in this modern worlds.

                            I'm not talking about the third world at all, I'm talking about poor people in this western world which has stuff like scholarships and public education.

                            Are you going out of your way to try to troll me or something?
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                            • Trolling in Alberta. I can see the CBC special now.
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                              • Ashur:

                                Sorry, I am so new at this that I do not know what "Trolling" means. Mybe you could enlighten me?
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