Slavery reparations

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by Guynemer


Are you kidding? 137 years really isn't all that long a time; we like to separate ourselves from slavery, but it wasn't too long ago that it was alive and well. There are still children of slaves alive, Cali. Guaranteed.

Where is the cutoff point then?

[orange]

Originally posted by Guynemer
Are you kidding? 137 years really isn't all that long a time; we like to separate ourselves from slavery, but it wasn't too long ago that it was alive and well. There are still children of slaves alive, Cali. Guaranteed.

That would make that person, at the least, 100 years old.

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by Caligastia


Where is the cutoff point then?

Not following you here.

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by orange


That would make that person, at the least, 100 years old.

Yes, it would. Care to take a guess on how many 100 year old people there are today in America?

[WhiteElephants]

I believe it was Mohammed Ali who said, "I'm glad my grand daddy got on the boat", or something to that effect.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by Guynemer


Not following you here.

Great! I wish everyone who supports reparations for slavery would stop talking about it as quickly as you.

[DinoDoc]

BTW, I was under the impression that ex post facto laws were illegal. If so, how do these lawsuits get over that hurdle?

[loinburger]

Originally posted by Guynemer
Yes, it would. Care to take a guess on how many 100 year old people there are today in America?

I'm gonna guess two thousand, maybe three.

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by Tuberski
However, those slaves were BOUGHT from Africa, other black tribes, are they seeking reparations from them?

Also if their ancestors weren't slaves where would they be? Africa, as a comedian(Eddie Griffin) said " Africa ain't no place for a n....black person.

How does any of that mean that people aren't entitled to what was wrongly kept from their ancestors?

Again, this isn't the US Government paying people. These are the companies who used slavery.

And btw Orange, I didn't respond to your above idea about healthcare/services/whatnot. I think that's a great idea, actually. My first thought when I heard about this case was "I bet they're actually aiming to get scholarships/housing/health care from those companies through a settlement."

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by Caligastia


Great! I wish everyone who supports reparations for slavery would stop talking about it as quickly as you.

Wow. Now you've REALLY lost me. What the hell are you trying to say?

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Guynemer


How does any of that mean that people aren't entitled to what was wrongly kept from their ancestors?

I never said it was. But why aren't they? We all know why but if we answer we will be called prejudiced or racist or what have you, when that wouldn't really apply.

Simply put, africa is poor, how can they ppay reparations, and why should they when we can get these companies to do it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not opposing it, I'm just not sure I totally agree with it.

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by loinburger


I'm gonna guess two thousand, maybe three.

According to the latest census estimates, 68,000.

[orange]

Originally posted by loinburger
I'm gonna guess two thousand, maybe three.

and going by statistics, only 10% of Americans are African American, and then going by the life expectancy for African Americans being lower than white Americans, and then factoring the fact that not all black people's ancestors were slaves...

I'd say there are between 10 and 15 people whose parents were slaves, even if only for a year or two, and who may or may not have contributed to any corporation's wealth.

[orange]

Originally posted by Guynemer
And btw Orange, I didn't respond to your above idea about healthcare/services/whatnot. I think that's a great idea, actually. My first thought when I heard about this case was "I bet they're actually aiming to get scholarships/housing/health care from those companies through a settlement."

Then that's what they should lobby for. Playing victim for something that they were never directly affected by, and seeking retribution from individuals who are not directly responsible for it, will only succeed in doing one thing as far as I'm concerned: pissing me off.

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by Tuberski

Simply put, africa is poor, how can they ppay reparations, and why should they when we can get these companies to do it.

Okay. I see what you're getting at. But, again, those were tribal leaders and kings who profited--governments, essentially. The governments that are there are now are in no way, shape, or form related to those tribal leaders and kings.

The companies, however, are the same companies--name changes and whatnot be damned.