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"Other things" are irrelevant, unless you wanna just out-and-out violate the Constitution. If you do just say so.
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Ah, now I understand!
And I agree. The answer to a question shouldn't be that it is against the Constitution (unless it is a question about why doesn't the United States make some sort of law), but should include other reasons.
The reason I'm against banning of guns isn't because of the 2nd Amendment but because I believe in the freedom of people to own guns for hunting or self-defense.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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but according to the Law there is nothing elseOriginally posted by MacTBone
Alright, I'm saying that we should use the Constitution. I'm also saying that using arguments purely based in the Constitution are wrong, and serve no purpose for resolving situations. Should we restrict guns? Well, instead of just saying "2nd Amendment!", we should back it up with other things. I swear, sometimes DF and some of the other "Constitutionalists" sound as if they're part of a cult. I would hate it if some religious fundie wuted the bible all the time, and that's what it feels like these people do. They also refuse to look at other viewpoints, they say "It's right there, we can't argue". Well, we can and we should.
in the US all LAw comes from the constitution
if something in it is wrong, then it should be changed
by the mechanisms provided
there is nothing about viewpoints
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So David, according to the Constitution, I have the right to own a nuclear weapon?"Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
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He's already said that. Please don't rehash arguements.Originally posted by orange
So David, according to the Constitution, I have the right to own a nuclear weapon?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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see the constitution just says that there is a right to bear armsOriginally posted by orange
So David, according to the Constitution, I have the right to own a nuclear weapon?
not what sort of arms
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Does that include semi-automatic, automatic, and other weapons? Couldn't we limit 'self defense' and 'hunting' guns to a specific realm of guns? If not, for what reason?Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
The reason I'm against banning of guns isn't because of the 2nd Amendment but because I believe in the freedom of people to own guns for hunting or self-defense."Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
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Chrizzist almight...
Do we really need another thread on the 2nd amendment? Especially one that is starting to just rehash the same damn arguments that have been beaten to death on the other two threads???<p style="font-size:1024px">HTML is disabled in signatures
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Re: Chrizzist almight...
Yes. This is what we do.Originally posted by loinburger
Do we really need another thread on the 2nd amendment? Especially one that is starting to just rehash the same damn arguments that have been beaten to death on the other two threads???
"Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
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Originally posted by orange
Yes. This is what we do.
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Obviously so.So David, according to the Constitution, I have the right to own a nuclear weapon?Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/DaveDaDouche
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LMAOOriginally posted by David Floyd
Obviously so.
Well then, I hope your war on terror President doesn't mind if I obtained some nuclear weapons and stored them in my basement.
You're an absolute riot DF.
I just want to hear a cop come over and say "you got a permit for that?"
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David doesn't like permits of any kind either. They violate privacy.Originally posted by orange
I just want to hear a cop come over and say "you got a permit for that?"
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I don't give a **** what he wants.Well then, I hope your war on terror President doesn't mind if I obtained some nuclear weapons and stored them in my basement.
**** them, too.I just want to hear a cop come over and say "you got a permit for that?"
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I have to agree, Mac.
The Constitution was an innovative document, but it had and still has a lot of flaws. Just because a principle is legal or illegal according to the Constitution doesn't automatically justify or invalidate it. The Xth Amendment or Article A Section B, like "national sovereignty" and similar catch-phrases tend to become abused in this manner."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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