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  • #61
    LOTR or Moulin Rouge should have won BP. We are talking about films here after all. Rouge was visually amazing - so dynamic and colorful. I felt Rouge explored the medium itself. Rouge couldn't win because it wasn't a "straight" film - it was experimantal and the academy is conservative. LOTR was the best "straight" film.

    Opie is a hack who directs schmaltzy movie-of-the-week stuff. "Far and Away" anyone? He neither achieved the technical prowess of Luhrmann, nor does Opie's melodramatic portrail of emotion stack up to Jackson's portrail in LOTR.

    Denzel in "Training Day" was a great performance - better than Russel. (And what in God's name has Crowe been in that required any acting chops other than "The Insider"? "Gladiator" was just "LA Confidential" in ancient Rome.) And forget Sean Penn in "I am Ham".

    Halle? She deserves it just for the sex scene in "Monster's Ball". Yep, that's right, call me a pig.
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    • #62
      For those who think that 'A Beautiful Mind' was a great movie, may I ask: why?

      Russell Crowe was awful. He went straight into the old cliche - display the eccentric, nutty professor with a series of ticks and nerdy behaviour. I am really sick of this. Not all mathematician/scientists are nerds who can't maintain a conversation! He also came over as being such a ****....

      And what was the film all about? What was the point of it? To show that clever people can also have brain difficulties? I know this very well thank you (on an all too personal level). The movie was completely unfocussed. Was it supposed to be about mathematicians and the Nobel Prize or was it supposed to be about schizophrenia? Notice that John Nash's Nobel prize winning work was done before his schizophrenia, so they seem completely unrelated issues. While the story of a man overcoming schizophrenia can be very moving, here is was muddled by all the other baggage that the movie carries.

      And the less said about the ridiculous way that the halucinations about suitcase nukes and communist conspiracies were handled the better.....

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
        Making him white if he was Arab is rewriting history

        [Still, bisexuality plays absolutely no part in this. The wife didn't know... and it is her standing by him that is important to the story.
        Mind you, she did divorce him, and only re-married him after he won the Nobel. But those facts get in the way of a good "family values" story. So let's re-write history and pretend they stayed married. Let's re-write history and hide the fact that he had an illigitimate son (cause we don't want to offend the Christian Right), or the fact that he never married the mother of his first child (cause that would destroy the myth that back in the old days, people never had sex before marriage). Let's hide his bisexuality. Oh, and let's re-write history to pretend he wrote a brilliant thesis when he was suffering from Schziophrenia cause that makes a better story.

        But, don't even think about re-writing history to change his race cause that would be completely wrong and unacceptable.
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        • #64
          Bah, humbug!
          I would have preferred to see LOTR get best picture, McKellen get best supporting, et al, but it is as someone before pointed out that the Oscars are not the true measure of a great film, but are rather the utmost expression of subjective judgement.
          I mean, if it were up to me, Elijah Wood would have shared best actor with Daniel Radcliffe, and Harry Potter with LOTR, and Brian Cox would have been at least nominated for L.I.E, and probably win in best supporting actor, but I have always been known for peculiar tastes and utter madness.
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          • #65
            Oh, to be young again and so passionate about things that don't really matter.

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            • #66
              LOTR shouldn't even have been nominated, let alone should have won. Practically as boring as the books, everyone I know who saw it hated it.

              Now, Moulin Rouge should have won. That was cool.
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              • #67
                Re: Academy Awards

                Originally posted by David Floyd
                Also known as Lord of the Rings got ****ed, as everyone knew it would because members of the academy are morons

                Correctamundo.
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                • #68
                  Well JohnT, I won't eat my words. I still believe LOTR is a better movie than A Beautiful Mind (having seen both) but in the end, I recognized that the Academy would be more likely to go with Mind and only ended up choosing LOTR because of the smear campaign against Mind's script. Besides, LOTR has another two years at the top coming, and Two Towers should be even better than Fellowship was.

                  Major props to the Academy for their picks in the acting categories. Berry and Washington both deserved their awards (Berry especially) and I'm glad the Academy didn't get sucked in by the Gosford Park hubbub (and did the right thing in honoring Connelly). Of course, they set the tone for the night by dismissing Ian McKellen in favor of Jim Broadbent (!!!) but I figured I was losing my title anyway if LOTR didn't take it.

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                  • #69
                    Phantom Menace did suck, but don't knock the old Star Wars movies.

                    IMO Empire Strikes Back was the greatest movie ever made.

                    The Oscars are BS anyways. I've always known this, that's why I don't care what those artsy homos do anyways. It's one select group of "we're better than you" people who think that their movies are so good.

                    The only times they've gotten it right were "Braveheart" and "Gladiator".

                    Titanic was the worst movie ever made.

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                    • #70
                      Don't forget there's LOTR2 next year and LOTR3 the year after that. Two more chances at bat anyway.
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                      • #71
                        I never understood why "Pulp Fiction" was considered to be such a great movie.

                        Did Nash's bisexuality have anything to do with his paranoia? If so then it should have been mentioned in the film.

                        I predict that the final film in the LOTR series will sweep the Oscars. The scene in which Sauron announces his undying love for Frodo and gives him the ring to keep, after which Frodo banishes Sauron and himself to the netherworld will certainly clinch the award for BP.
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                        • #72
                          Did Nash's bisexuality have anything to do with his paranoia? If so then it should have been mentioned in the film.


                          That's the question. But how can you be sure it did? It would be very difficult to say that his bisexuality had anything to do with his paranoia.

                          But, don't even think about re-writing history to change his race cause that would be completely wrong and unacceptable.


                          Actually it wouldn't (be completely wrong, etc), it would just be less believable as a story about John Nash. After all, people seeing a movie white Muhammed Ali really wouldn't be able to believe that it was about Ali that easily. Sexual orientation is something that can be hidden (and has been for ages).
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                            That's the question. But how can you be sure it did? It would be very difficult to say that his bisexuality had anything to do with his paranoia.
                            How can we be so sure? How would we know, if it's never presented to us?

                            Actually it wouldn't (be completely wrong, etc), it would just be less believable as a story about John Nash. After all, people seeing a movie white Muhammed Ali really wouldn't be able to believe that it was about Ali that easily. Sexual orientation is something that can be hidden (and has been for ages).
                            Sexuality is not something you tuck away when it's convenient. It's as much of being a person as a skin color is, skin color is simply more superficial. That's why we disagree, you seem to think sexuality is a useless addition to a film and doesn't make a person, but rather it's an annoying tidbit of extra information like if he prefers the color blue to red...
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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Asher
                              How can we be so sure? How would we know, if it's never presented to us?
                              I was under the impression that his paranoia stemmed from his schizophrenia not his bisexuality.

                              Edit: I was right.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by DinoDoc
                                I was under the impression that his paranoia stemmed from his schizophrenia not his bisexuality.

                                Edit: I was right.

                                Now I must arrive at the time of my change from scientific rationality of thinking into the delusional thinking characteristic of persons who are psychiatrically diagnosed as "schizophrenic" or "paranoid schizophrenic".

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                                The movie's not specifically about his paranoia (else it wouldn't be about a guy named John Nash, but rather "Guy With Paranoia").

                                It's about John Nash, who struggled with, of many things, Paranoia.
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