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  • #31
    She's Got the Biggest Balls of Them All

    Thatcher will go down as one of the most influential PMs ever. And yes, I expect that sticks in PH's craw.
    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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    • #32
      Originally posted by *End Is Forever*


      The left have to look at themselves here. Thatcher won two elections because, however bad people might have thought the Conservative policies were, the alternative was far, far, far worse. I shudder at the thought of Michael Foot as Prime Minister, or another four "winters of discontent". It wasn't anyone on the right who described the 1983 Labour manifesto as the "longest suicide note in history", was it?

      The comments about the Labour party are quite right- although I have immense respect for Michael Foot and consider him the greatest mind in the Labour party of the last half of the 20th century I still think he'd have made a crap PM.

      However the Falklands war didn't kill off Labour's chances- it hamstrung the SDP. While they're considered a laughing stock now people forget the fact that their rise to prominence was meteoric. Had the Falklands war not occurred I'm convinced that they'd have been the primary opposition in the 1983 election, and given the state of the economy at the time I'm pretty sure they's have one.
      The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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      • #33
        Re: She's Got the Biggest Balls of Them All

        Originally posted by DanS
        Thatcher will go down as one of the most influential PMs ever. And yes, I expect that sticks in PH's craw.
        Whenever an American makes a quote like that, the justification usually makes amusing reading and usually goes "Er....um....she agreed with Reagan".

        She certainly was massively influential, but then so was bubonic plague, syphilis and Naziism.
        The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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        • #34
          I see the right-winged Yanks and Reagan sycophants have arrived to tell me how mean and nasty I am being. Well boo-hoo

          I mean, really, what do you know about her domestic leadership? All you ever saw of her her canoodling with Reagan and swinging her handbag in unison with Reagans zimmerframe against those 'darn evil commies'. Come on off it.
          Speaking of Erith:

          "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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          • #35
            IMHO, Thatcherism was a stage the country had to go through. After the second world war, GB seemed to have slipped into lethargy and economic decline. I spent three month in Bradford in 1989, which is an extremely good example as grass rooted everywhere over the decline. Once upon a time, every othe village had railroad, there were industries etc, where then was grass and a few cows. In 1992/1993, I spent a year in York and Lancaster (good combination ) and one started to restaurate historical cities, electrifice railroad lines etc.
            Even if this obviously didn't happen all in three years, the difference was remarkable.

            I think these are the real merits of Thatcher, not the actual laws she made.

            Not that she did do things a majority agreed with, or that she always did do the best. But to my impression she put an energy into the country which it was lacking before, and everybody was whining about social care or the privileges of old. And it went through a great part of the society, not necessarliy in the way Thatcher intended. New Labor is a result of this.

            Be happy you've had her, be happy you don't have her anymore.
            Why doing it the easy way if it is possible to do it complicated?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Provost Harrison
              All you ever saw of her her canoodling with Reagan and swinging her handbag in unison with Reagans zimmerframe against those 'darn evil commies'. Come on off it.
              I've read some of her writing. All I've ever heard from you is whining about sand in your labia...

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              • #37
                Originally posted by GP


                I've read some of her writing. All I've ever heard from you is whining about sand in your labia...
                Oh piss off GP, I suppose you know all about what she has done for this country and how she angered millions and millions, and shafted them. Unless you have a clue what you are on about, get lost
                Speaking of Erith:

                "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                • #38
                  "or the privileges of old."

                  LOL considering the percentage of titled aristocrats in the large Thatcher cabinet...(almost all of them)

                  And how well did Thatcher do on unemployment, the the economic issue which affects the ordinary person the most??

                  Baroness Thatcher was an embarrassing throwback to an earlier time, kept in power by:

                  1. The man on the streets need for a bully to 'keep all them damn foreigners in line'

                  2. The promised benefits of getting everyone laid off...and yes, there have been benefits, but were they real in the sense of keeping people working?

                  3. Traditionalism. I think she can be credited with discrediting British Traditionalism.

                  These are the views I got from Phil, a friend who fled Sheffield in the 80s to work here.
                  "Wait a minute..this isn''t FAUX dive, it's just a DIVE!"
                  "...Mangy dog staggering about, looking vainly for a place to die."
                  "sauna stories? There are no 'sauna stories'.. I mean.. sauna is sauna. You do by the laws of sauna." -P.

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                  • #39
                    Too right, as a domestic leader she was abysmal, with unemployment through the roof. Her policies were behind the 'yuppie culture' you see, which are just an embodiment of how she did her bit for the rich-poor divide, and kept it growing faster than ever. Oooh, and then we have the Falklands...a real hot potato.

                    But Maggie was adored by the Americans. At times I think it was the only thing that kept her going on the world stage...because by the end, we didn't.
                    Speaking of Erith:

                    "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                    • #40
                      Re: That shut the old windbag up!

                      Originally posted by Provost Harrison
                      Yes, that's right, Margaret Thatcher has been forced to withdraw from public speaking due to suffering a series of minor strokes weakening her significantly. She never spewed anything other than hatred and unpleasantness, and although I wouldn't want a stroke to happen to anyone, this is a bit of a blessing in disguise.
                      Hypocrisy du jour anyone?
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                      • #41
                        Re: Re: That shut the old windbag up!

                        Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola


                        Hypocrisy du jour anyone?
                        I expressed a dislike, and with reason. No hypocrisy there.
                        Speaking of Erith:

                        "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                        • #42
                          Re: Re: That shut the old windbag up!

                          Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
                          Hypocrisy du jour anyone?
                          No. Yin Yan - uden kakon amiyes kalou. Nothing is exclusively bad and nothing is exclusevly good

                          (a stroke is bad but not necessairily all bad )
                          Last edited by Bereta_Eder; March 23, 2002, 13:02.

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                          • #43
                            She was such a great lady. How dare you speak against her, Provost?

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                            • #44
                              Thankfully, like red jon, I'm far too young to remember Thatcher's Britain. I just grew up in it.
                              "Paul Hanson, you should give Gibraltar back to the Spanish" - Paiktis, dramatically over-estimating my influence in diplomatic circles.

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                              • #45
                                Why, oh why, was this thread not titled

                                All her life's blood is slowly draining away
                                And she feels that she's weaker every day


                                http://www.netsector.com/tony/maiden/lyrics/still_life.htm
                                12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                                Stadtluft Macht Frei
                                Killing it is the new killing it
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