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  • #16
    Originally posted by November Adam


    Sounds good to me! Care to invest a little money with NA Explorations? It will make you rich!

    Not my money. Thank Conoco, Haliburton, etc....


    What are you talking about?
    Sorry. Im thinking of alaska.

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    • #17
      fg, that's a whole other US state .
      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
        fg, that's a whole other US state .
        Canada

        Since when?

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        • #19
          Since like forever... you know the 51st state..
          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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          • #20
            Coconuts, they work very well(i voted bananas as it was kinda close to Coconut).
            In the war in Bouganville, down near Papua New Guinea(North of Australia). The Rebel fighters of Bouganville facing a complete blockade by the PNG forces resorted to loads of cunning methods to keep up their fight for independence. One of which was refineing the Oil from a Coconut that then could be put straight into the 4x4's left on the Island.Apparantly it worked a treat and while the PNG forces camped on the Island suffered black out's from there faulty diesel generators, the Bouganville people had free Fuel for there car's and power! Very ingienious i think.Oh and apparantly it burns clean(compared to Oil).
            'The very basis of the liberal idea – the belief of individual freedom is what causes the chaos' - William Kristol, son of the founder of neo-conservitivism, talking about neo-con ideology and its agenda for you.info here. prove me wrong.

            Bush's Republican=Neo-con for all intent and purpose. be afraid.

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            • #21
              End all subsidies to big oil, implement tax breaks for cleaner solutions as well as tax penalties for those who stick with petroleum.
              "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
              -Bokonon

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              • #22
                We don't want to destroy the economy Ramo

                Penalties for those who stick with petroleum
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • #23
                  should have made it multiple choice, I'd vote for all.
                  "Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
                  You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal..." - Fez

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                    We don't want to destroy the economy Ramo

                    Penalties for those who stick with petroleum

                    Next we should have a poll. "Do you want to be penalized for driving a car"


                    Any government that Taxes citizens for somthing like that is WAAAAAAY out of line!

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                    • #25
                      Only in certain contexts, Imran (edit: not for users) .
                      "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                      -Bokonon

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by orange
                        should have made it multiple choice, I'd vote for all.
                        Check my first post.... Make a decision! Basically, what should be the focus.
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Ramo
                          Only in certain contexts, Imran (edit: not for users) .
                          Pray, do tell, how you can tax/penalize a producer. Without carrying the extra cost down to the consumer?


                          Simple economics here.

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                          • #28
                            Simple. They'd lose market to those using cleaner solutions if they increase their prices.

                            You're just getting the car manufacturers to clean up the externality they're creating, and also nudging them into towards a long-term change. No different from other environmental laws.
                            Last edited by Ramo; March 6, 2002, 20:33.
                            "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                            -Bokonon

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                            • #29
                              Oh just don't bother. Use the stuff. Make it easier to explore. Less off-limits lands, etc.
                              Hold my girlfriend while I kiss your skis.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Ramo
                                Simple. They'd lose competition to those using cleaner solutions if they increase their prices.

                                So you basically use the heavy hand of government destroy an entire industry that employs more than 250,000 people...


                                Its up to people who make these cleaner solutions to prove there worth to the consumer.

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