Operation Anaconda: American Troops DEAD

[HisMajestyBOB]

I can't believe this. Nine friggen dead people and everyones calling it a complete loss
How many people died from crime today? Car accidents? Etc.
And you people get worked up over the deaths of people who knew and accepted the risks as part of their job.

[Alexander's Horse]

I would have thought in a coalition war all allied casualties hurt the same Wiglaf

[faded glory]

Horsie, there will be no repeat of Vietnam. Stop beating your dirty hippie drums.


There are significant resistance in the pocket yes. But there are no places to hide for the taliban. Not with Thermobaric bombs, Infered, and AC-130's. Its absolutely upsurd to think we might lose. This is a regrouped taliban. But weaker. We have proved already, that there tactic's dont work. That is why they are where they are now. In a small 50 square mile mountainous region on the border.

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by Giancarlo
I can't wait until they release the casualities for the Al Qaeda/Taliban resistance... fourty... fifty? Sixty?

We should never be gleeful at death, or hope for high body counts, Gian. Those guys are someones' sons, too.

And Wiggy--will you PLEASE knock this obnoxious bull**** off? Yes, we have more casualties than other countries. We also spend more on our military than the next ten nations COMBINED. Try to use some goddam REASON and SENSE the next time you feel the urge to make a fool of yourself.

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by faded glory
Horsie, there will be no repeat of Vietnam. Stop beating your dirty hippie drums.


There are significant resistance in the pocket yes. But there are no places to hide for the taliban. Not with Thermobaric bombs, Infered, and AC-130's. Its absolutely upsurd to think we might lose. This is a regrouped taliban. But weaker. We have proved already, that there tactic's dont work. That is why they are where they are now. In a small 50 square mile mountainous region on the border.

Really - seems almost spooky in the parallels to me - US reliance on technology against insurgents, an inability to finish them off, use of border sanctuaries, escalating casualties, enemy quickly regrouping from defeats. initial very high domestic popularity.

My prediction is it won't be long before there is a hit and run attack on allied forces in a major city - you heard it here first folks!

[Wiglaf]

Wiglaf, buddy, the US has more casualties because they commit far more troops. They commit far more troops because it IS largely your war, and you have a budget about 100x that Canada has, for example.

OK, let's look at Britain. They've got the resources to send planes and troops over, don't tell me they don't. The money, everything - it's all there and in place. It's the bad politics of a British soldier dying that keep them from sending someone in one of these choppers on the front lines..and that's too bad.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
OK, let's look at Britain. They've got the resources to send planes and troops over, don't tell me they don't. The money, everything - it's all there and in place. It's the bad politics of a British soldier dying that keep them from sending someone in one of these choppers on the front lines..and that's too bad.

You seem to be under the impression that every country should send every single military resource out to Afghanistan at once, so we can take out the 5000 or so remaining Taliban.

Do you have any concept of logistics and military coordination?

[Alexander's Horse]

How old are you?

I think you'll find that the British public will absorb casualties just as well if not better than the U.S. public does.

And need I remind you of the many recent occasions where the British sent in troops and the United States squibbed it (Sarajevo for one)?

[faded glory]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse


Really - seems almost spooky in the parallels to me - US reliance on technology against insurgents, an inability to finish them off, use of border sanctuaries, escalating casualties, enemy quickly regrouping from defeats. initial very high domestic popularity.

no...its not hit and run. Its duck,cover, and hide. If that is a good tactic.....phf...well. Thats not a good tactic. Its possible they were planing somthing in the regrouping...but whatever it was, all bets are off. There now officially, surrounded, unlike tora bora where they slipped along the pakistan side.

Btw......5 months is not a quick regroup. The Viet's are laughing at the talibs. They could form thousands in the middle of a jungle over a week.

The Gardez regrouping is more of a "come in, well look out the window and wait till they let there gaurd down"

Vietnam was wwwwwwaaaaaaaaay different. We fought a restricted war. We are not doing that here.....there is no barricades. No fatcat buearcrat giving political orders.

My prediction is it won't be long before there is a hit and run attack on allied forces in a major city - you heard it here first folks!

I doubt it. Kabul is very secure. over armed 5,000 peacekeepers and NA troops. If they did try hit and runs, fat chance they will actualy kill anybody......

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by faded glory


I doubt it. Kabul is very secure. over armed 5,000 peacekeepers and NA troops. If they did try hit and runs, fat chance they will actualy kill anybody......

Since I'm about to win my bet with MTG on OBL, care to make a bet about that?

[DaShi]

Oh well, a few Americans died. But there will be hell to pay if any Afghani's die.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
Its sad but even sadder is this war is going exactly the way some of us predicted it would from the start i.e. guerilla war, escalating casualties and no end in sight.

No offense, but you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

These people have no place else to go, no ongoing logisitical or materiel support, and they're essentially trapped, with limited mobility.

It's like referring to the Falaise pocket as the beginning of an insurgency - the Gardeyz-Khowst-Ghazni region is one of two or three isolated areas in the country these guys retreated to, and now there's an increase in density because the remnants keep coming in and they can't exfiltrate back into the rest of the country in significant enough numbers.

They can't stay in place either, because before spring comes, they'll deplete their food supplies. The road to Parachinar (Pakistan) is very limited, and the countryside in that area doesn't favor rapid cross-country movement or movement with heavy supplies under cover.

In short, they're in a death-trap, and they've chosen, thus far, to fight it out.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse


Since I'm about to win my bet with MTG on OBL, care to make a bet about that?

Really? Have you seen any confirmation he's alive? I haven't.

[Seeker]

"Really? Have you seen any confirmation he's alive? I haven't."

Is this going to turn into another God thread?

[Alexander's Horse]

Check the original thread - I didn't have to prove he was alive, you had to prove he was dead.